Break and runs and balls pocketed.

stolz2

Kid Mack
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Just wanted to see what was the most consecutive break and runs any of you have ever seen or heard of? And also the most balls pocketed off the break in 9 ball, any one ever have 5-6+ balls pocketed?

Mack
 
stolz2 said:
Just wanted to see what was the most consecutive break and runs any of you have ever seen or heard of? And also the most balls pocketed off the break in 9 ball, any one ever have 5-6+ balls pocketed?

Mack

I made 6 on the break in the Colorado Open 9-ball tourney one year. One of the 6 was the 9 and it won me the match to get to the hill match on the winners side. It was also my 3rd 9-ball break in a row. It was a bar table.

Cheers,
Regas
 
Well, I've run a seven pack, but three of those runs involved a combo on the nine. The best I've done without a nine on the break or a combo was a six pack. The biggest stringing of racks I've ever heard of was Niels Feijen's fifteen pack, which I believe took place in Holland in 2002. i believe the record is higher than fifteen on a bar box.

As for balls on the break, I once made six balls on the break twice in one race to nine! On one of those two breaks, I had to push. The table conditions are the key. Loose pockets and fast, new cloth, are the conditions that make it much easier to break well.
 
I made 7 balls on a tight diamond 1 time, then had a tough shot on the 8, which I naturally missed, go figure??
it always seems that when you make alot of balls on the break, you have little or no shot to start with!
 
The most ive made on a 9 ball break is 4 balls. Now i kind of feel bad because everyone else is making so many more...
As for consecutive runs, i did a 5 rack run before, no caroms on the 9.
 
i got 5 on the break once........and strung together a 5 rack run, but i cant remember if i comboed or made any 9's on the break, prolly did
 
About three weeks ago in our BCA 8-Ball league, a guy from the other team broke and made 6 solids (!!!)...sadly for him, but good for us, one of those "solids" was the cueball. But still, 5 little ones on an 8-Ball break----wow!

Jeff Livingston
 
ive always been told by the old timers that the record is 23 by greenleaf on a 10 footer
seen 13 on a barbox 4 of em on the break.
i think buddy said he done 15.
 
stolz2 said:
Just wanted to see what was the most consecutive break and runs any of you have ever seen or heard of? And also the most balls pocketed off the break in 9 ball, any one ever have 5-6+ balls pocketed?

Mack

I believe Neils Feijen ran 15 consecutive 9-ball
racks last year or the year before. Johnny Archer
also ran 15 racks while gambling with Bustamante
around 1993, he ran out a set to 13 and then
started the next set with 2 racks...I guess that
counts as 15 racks. I've also heard from several
old-timers that Luther Lassiter ran 21 racks in
practice.

My personal best is 5 racks, that was about 5-6
years ago and I haven't run more than 3 racks
since then.
 
Someone who plays against Kid Delicious in NY sometimes said that Kid has run 9 racks AND an 11-pack against him. I think Kid ran 8 on Jeremy Jones (Windy City?) and it was taped. Medina ran 9 against Bill Incardona a long time ago which is on tape.

I've broken in five a bunch of times, six twice, but I've never even seen a seven ball break in nine ball.

It seems a lot of people, including myself, have made three straight nine balls. I think Buddy Hall says he has seen six in a row but I'm not positive on that.

True story: about 10 years ago near Sacramento, a nine ball break pot had risen to almost 6000 bucks. My friend (Chris McDonald, former pro) got picked to try and win it , broke, and the nine didn't come close to a pocket. His first match was on the same table that day and he broke in the nine three times in a row right off the bat. A guy in a wheelchair actually ended up winning the break pot.
 
I've snapped 5 balls a couple of times on a break and have snapped 6 once and with that 6 ball drop I left myself hooked for the next shot. :(

I once got in a $20 a rack 9-ball game, won the toss and then snapped (4) 9-balls on the break to start the match... boy that was a nice head start for the night :)
 
I've made 6 balls playing 9 ball and 8 ball. Playing 9 ball I was hooked and playing 8 ball I made the 8 very next shot on a break out to run the table. It didn't pay me to make all those balls. LOL I have made 5 lots of times. Dick Leonard on CCB claims to have seen all 9 made. The same guy made 6 a few times after.

Playing in a ring game I run 5 racks from the start, it was race to handicap -1. I felt pretty good about my chances but another guy, Fred Lucas, after me run 8 racks to win the set.

The last time, there were several times, I played Louie Roberts, St Louie Louie I run 7 racks when his backer put the stall on me wanting a better game. I said no, run two more for a total of nine then he pulled up. Never got to see how far it would go. There was 1 early 9 combo.
Other than that, never seen more racks run.

Rod
 
merylane said:
ive always been told by the old timers that the record is 23 by greenleaf on a 10 footer
seen 13 on a barbox 4 of em on the break.
i think buddy said he done 15.

Greenleaf only played 14.1 and in his prime the game of 9 ball did not exist. Ralph won his first world title in 1919. People in that era played rotation.
 
I have done 4, and didnt get out from it, i seen a guy do six, and got full ball hooked and had to push with only 3 balls on the table :P, the other guy got out.
 
Bobby said:
I believe Neils Feijen ran 15 consecutive 9-ball
racks last year or the year before. Johnny Archer
also ran 15 racks while gambling with Bustamante
around 1993, he ran out a set to 13 and then
started the next set with 2 racks...I guess that
counts as 15 racks. I've also heard from several
old-timers that Luther Lassiter ran 21 racks in
practice.

My personal best is 5 racks, that was about 5-6
years ago and I haven't run more than 3 racks
since then.

Under the heading of pool's unsolved mysteries is whether Lassiter actually ran the twenty-one pack. I heard in the early 1970's that he had done it in the early 1960's on a 4 1/2 x 9, and asked several pros about it over the years. Though a couple of them had heard of it, most hadn't, which raised grave doubts about whether it really happened. Those that had heard of it couldn't verify it. I remember Irving Crane felt strongly that it had never happened, but he added that if anyone had run than many, it was surely Lassiter.

Crane was more inclined to tell the story of when he matched up with Johnny Irish in the 1950's for $1,000 per race to six, a big bet by the standards of the day. Irish won the lag, and broke and ran six. They lagged again, and Irish won the lag, and, sure enough, Irish broke and ran another six. Thoroughly demoralized, Crane paid the bet and unscrewed, $2,000 lighter and having not actually played a single shot. Irish's unfinished 12 pack was something Irving spoke of often.
 
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sjm said:
Under the heading of pool's unsolved mysteries is whether Lassiter actually ran the twenty-one pack. I heard in the early 1970's that he had done it in the early 1960's on a 4 1/2 x 9, and asked several pros about it over the years. Though a couple of them had heard of it, most hadn't, which raised grave doubts about whether it really happened. Those that had heard of it couldn't verify it. I remember Irving Crane felt strongly that it had never happened, but he added that if anyone had run than many, it was surely Lassiter.

Crane was more inclined to tell the story of when he matched up with Johnny Irish in the 1950's for $1,000 per race to six, a big bet by the standards of the day. Irish won the lag, and broke and ran six. They lagged again, and Irish won the lag, and, sure enough, Irish broke and ran another six. Thoroughly demoralized, Crane paid the bet and unscrewed, $2,000 lighter and having not actually played a single shot. Irish's unfinished 12 pack was something Irving spoke of often.

Jam,
Since you're trading emails with Earl, you may want to ask him this one. I heard about a "challenge" that he rose up to some time ago. Can't remember how many racks he ran, but it may be better to hear it from him.
Otherwise,
I have a friend who broke and made 6....got snookered, but still made 6!
 
sjm said:
Under the heading of pool's unsolved mysteries is whether Lassiter actually ran the twenty-one pack. I heard in the early 1970's that he had done it in the early 1960's on a 4 1/2 x 9, and asked several pros about it over the years. Though a couple of them had heard of it, most hadn't, which raised grave doubts about whether it really happened. Those that had heard of it couldn't verify it. I remember Irving Crane felt strongly that it had never happened, but he added that if anyone had run than many, it was surely Lassiter.

Crane was more inclined to tell the story of when he matched up with Johnny Irish in the 1950's for $1,000 per race to six, a big bet by the standards of the day. Irish won the lag, and broke and ran six. They lagged again, and Irish won the lag, and, sure enough, Irish broke and ran another six. Thoroughly demoralized, Crane paid the bet and unscrewed, $2,000 lighter and having not actually played a single shot. Irish's unfinished 12 pack was something Irving spoke of often.


Wow, running out two consecutive sets against Crane
is super impressive, though it's odd that players
of that caliber where playing sets to 6 games.

I've heard a lot of amazing things about Johnny
Irish, they say he would be sleeping in a chair
in the back of the old 7-11 and a road player would
come in. They would wake him up to tell him he had
a game and he would then run 100 and out and go
back to sleep! I also heard that back in the 40's
Irish and James Evans would play 75 no count on
the 5 x 10's with tight pockets! I don't know what
that would be equal to on 4 1/2 x 9's with 5"
pockets.
 
> My personal record for most balls on the break is 6,but have seen 7 made twice,both resulting in having to push out. My high rack run in 9-ball is 7 racks,both on a bar box and a sloppy pocketed 8 footer,my high on a tight Gold Crown is 5. As far as most racks run in a row,there are several people,maybe even some that post here,that saw Dave Matlock put together 15-20 racks on a bar box when playing his best. I was also told a story about Earl once. The story goes that a player named Sam Monday once ran 22 racks playing the 9-ball ghost on Earl's practice table at a local NC poolroom. Earl,not happy that someone tried to upstage him,supposedly went to the guys house and offered him the 7. Tommy D.
 
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