Break Cue vs Jump/Break Cue

Bluey2King

Bluey2King

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Hello;
I am considering a new cue. I have been looking at past threads about J/B cues that got me to thinking.
What are the features that are important in a J/B cue?
What are the features that are important in a Break cue?
I am a APA league player, and we can't use a jump cue, but things change. APA could change their rules, or I might change leauges at some point.
I have never jumped before. My Break cue is a Lucasi with a phnolic tip. (maybe not the best for control)
I will be looking for a value cue ie. low end and from what I have read that there are several that work Great.
Do you have any endorsments for the low end cues and features to look for?
Thanks
Bluey2King
 
FIRST

I wouldn't buy a jump only cue, but I believe in jumping SOMETIMES!

What to look for? Quick-release pin in the middle!
 
I would vote for the Jump/Break simply because I don't want to carry an extra cue. The J/B I have works very well for me for both jumping and breaking. For as much as I jump, I don't feel I need a dedicated jump cue.

Craig
 
A good feature in a break cue is low deflection, this allow a high speed break to be more accurate.
On the other hand, a good feature for a jump cue is lots of deflection.
So when getting a jump/break combo cue it's a compromise.

The benefits of a combo cue is that it less hustle, it's only one cue, it saves space in the case or allow you to carry a smaller/lighter case.

Almost all jump/break cues that have phenolic tip perform the same, more all less.
If you have the extra $$$ and you would like to spoil yourself a little, go custom. If you're looking for the best bang for the $$ then check out J&J cues and Kaiser cues, also Billiard Warehouse have their own J/B cue that comes with two shafts and it hits really nice.

I would suggest to go with a lighter cue, less then 19oz (personally I like them around 17.5 - 18 oz)

I break with a Predator BK2 and jump with a Mezz Air-shooter, but I just got an Axiom J/B of ebay for $33.... I'll let you know what I think of it when it'll get here :)
 
I find I can do more with a Jump cue only. Its rare you have to do any variations of a jump shot but when need be I'd rather have a jump only. I like the Stealth Jump cue because it can be longer or shorter. I like BK2 Predator break cues. Varney from what I've heard here make a good break cue. A friend of my Brain King makes a good break cue also.
 
Thank You for all the info.
I have marked several on Ebay I will update this thread and let you know which one I have won..!
Thanks again...!
 
Am I crazy????

A local player saw my Mezz Air shooter and started nagging that I'll sell it to him, and I did..... $120... I just couldn't say no :eek:

luckily I have a cheap jump/break cue in the mail that i got for traveling and for lazy nights... but it looks like I will be looking for a new jump cue my self.

Although I really liked the Mezz I always like to try new things, the Jacoby is looking very appealing....

Is the Stealth that everyone is praising so much comes with a phenolic tip or leather?
 
I use

to believe in separate cues for breaking and jumping, but since getting a J&J break/jump cue, have changed my mind. Once I learned how to jump with the phenolic tip, I do pretty darn good with it now.

BUT ..... I ordered and tried an X-Jumper for a friend, and it is the best jump cue I have ever tried or played with, and would buy one in a minute. I told my friend that if he ever sells his, that I get first dibs on it. And he already had a Shurtz break/jump cue before he ordered the X-Jumper. The X2 tip on the X-Jumper is the nuts for jumping.
 
Bluey2King said:
Hello;
I am considering a new cue. I have been looking at past threads about J/B cues that got me to thinking.
What are the features that are important in a J/B cue?
What are the features that are important in a Break cue?
I am a APA league player, and we can't use a jump cue, but things change. APA could change their rules, or I might change leauges at some point.
I have never jumped before. My Break cue is a Lucasi with a phnolic tip. (maybe not the best for control)
I will be looking for a value cue ie. low end and from what I have read that there are several that work Great.
Do you have any endorsments for the low end cues and features to look for?
Thanks
Bluey2King
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i hear with a lighter stinger you can jump without taking it appart. that could be of some use
 
Snapshot9 said:
to believe in separate cues for breaking and jumping, but since getting a J&J break/jump cue, have changed my mind. Once I learned how to jump with the phenolic tip, I do pretty darn good with it now.

BUT ..... I ordered and tried an X-Jumper for a friend, and it is the best jump cue I have ever tried or played with, and would buy one in a minute. I told my friend that if he ever sells his, that I get first dibs on it. And he already had a Shurtz break/jump cue before he ordered the X-Jumper. The X2 tip on the X-Jumper is the nuts for jumping.
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I did a quick Google search, with no results. Where is this available? (edit: meaning the X-Jumper in general, not just the tip)

On another note, anyone have expirience with the Predator Air?
 
For the cheese . . .

Look into a J & J Jump/Break . . . a couple of guys always move NEW ones in the for sale forum at around $65 - $75 bucks . . . Exceptional cue for the money!

Otherwise, do up some of the other recommendations - they are all good above. Don't for to look for a Mike Gulyassey (AZforumite!) Sledgehammer. I use one and they are a GREAT B/C.
 
Hello again;
I let a Fury J/B get away last night on the bay. It sold for $88 used.

I still have questions.
1. Why do some of J/B cues have a wood to wood joint is there a reason?
2. I will use this cue more as a Breaker than a jumper. Is the phnolic tip and ferrel the way to go?
3. What about weight? I have heard that lighter cues are faster thus better, also does accuracy suffer with the higher speed? ( I am posting nother thread about accuracy on the Break Stroke please join in that too.)

Stingers and X Breakers, Predtor, Mezz, are too much for my budget.
I am looking at Fury, Scorpion, J&J, Axiom, Jackhammer, Kaiser. Any others?
Thanks
 
1. A good break comes from your stroke and not from the cue, a wood to wood joint has a softer hit but it gives a better feedback that enables a better control of a high speed shot (like a break shot). I like a thin phenolic sleeve on the joint just to reinforce the wood at that point... you see that a lot on custom break cues.

2. really up to you. It's harder to control the CB with a phenolic tip so if you can't find the center and you spin a lot the CB on the break then adding a phenolic tip to the equation will make you loose the control over the cue ball and make it fly off the table very often.
If you do not have a big and fast break then phenolic will give you a faster break (still require a good center stroke to keep it inline)
I would say go with phenolic as it will provide a bigger break with less effort and will also force you to develop a straight stroke.

3. With higher speed there is less accuracy!!! I believe that it's true to all players at all levels.
 
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