Butt diameter on hit?

Buster Jones

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How does the butt diameter effect the hit on a cue?

I have a McDermott (1994 model, i think). It looks like one of their old McD tournament's winner cues. It has a wider diameter than most cues (not as wide as a bar cue though) and I keep going back to this cue after I've tried others. Also, I've noticed all the custom cues that I've seen have a more narrow butt.

Sorry, I can't give you the spec's that my cue is.
 
How does the butt diameter effect the hit on a cue?

I have a McDermott (1994 model, i think). It looks like one of their old McD tournament's winner cues. It has a wider diameter than most cues (not as wide as a bar cue though) and I keep going back to this cue after I've tried others. Also, I've noticed all the custom cues that I've seen have a more narrow butt.

Sorry, I can't give you the spec's that my cue is.

What I've found, as most cue makers on here, is that the pool playing public, over the years, tastes in cues have greatly evolved. Most of the cues in the 20's, 30's and 40's had very large butts and very small shafts. Over the years this has reversed itself. I've got old Titlist butts that were 1.430 at the rear with 12 mm tips. Older factory cues from the late sixties on keep getting smaller butts and larger shafts. The reason is that that is what the buying public want.

Most people are buying custom cues today for either collecting, hoping they'll be able to sell at a later date and make a profit or that they've heard a particular makers cue will make balls for you while you're sitting in your easy chair. The second option is actually a bad one. Truthfully, almost any cue will play great for a player if he practices enough with it. What you should be looking for is a well built cue so that it will last many years without falling apart with reasonable care.

Cue manufacturers build cues to sell and that's exactly what they do. For the manufacturers to build cues competitively they can't have many variances. It is for this reason that custom cues cost so much more than production cues. Manufacturers try to keep their parameters unchanged for best production. Now when you're parameters differ from what you can find on the open market, then you have one built that incorporates those traits that you desire but can not find.

Dick
 
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tap tap well said......

i remember when the Predator LD shafts came out....it was just like the day they started the scratch off lottery in Oklahoma....


everyone thought they got a winner! lol
-Grey GHost
 
I can't really say for sure how much the handle thickness has to do with it, but I have one that I have had since It was new. It was one of the first HD editions, but I have since lost the decals and refinished It. I dropped the weight bolt out of It, and found Myself going back to the cue a lot as well. I'm pretty much just thrown into tuff matches once a week sometimes less when I can't show up to play, and get very little practice anymore, so have to perform on demand, and I still switch back and forth occasionally between the one I built and that cue, one night I hit better with one cue, and on another night I hit better with the other one. I started out building 5/16 pin cues, but now build most of My cues with a 3/8 pin due in part to the fact that the cue has performed so well for me over the years.

I am seeing the same trend that Dick mentioned. Ironically I just built a shaft last week for a guy that has two old Mcdermotts, and He wanted a 30" 14mm shaft for one of them. I talked him down to 13.80mm to make tipping the shaft a bit easier. I stuck It on My handle and hit some balls with it and really liked It. It had a harder ferrule, and hard tip, but had the control of a softer setup. Solid hit too, actually the first words out of his mouth was that It was solid feeling, and can I build him one for his other cue. That shaft did not have a high grain count, I forget what it was, but I'm sure It was under 12-13 gpi. I hand tapered the shaft to final size, and as I mentioned really like It, and want one for My cues, so I told him I may need to borrow the shaft sometime to make a taper bar for future use. I have 2 other orders to fill from other people that have been after me for a while to build the same diameter. I still have people that want something closer to the low end of 13mm, but many people want to go larger.

The handle I built and use, is not quite as large, but It is a straight taper, and not much smaller feeling then My Mcdermott. I have about 4 shafts that can be used on either cue. It's the only other cue I use that was not built by me, although all of the shafts were built by me, as the original shaft warped many years ago. No doubt probably due to the fact I only used It to break with for many years when My players were steel jointed 5/16. Now My break cue and jump cue are of My own creations. Pretty happy with the purple heart shaft on My break cue. Same size pin, really stiff shaft.
 
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