Buyer seller transaction issue question

As long as you were upfront about the taper roll, I don't see that you've done anything wrong.

Full refund for a return is more than fair.

I'd have just sent him the $20 and called it a day. I'd consider it "getting off cheap" hahahaha
 
Why wait for him..... tell us who it is, so we can avoid him like the plague.

As soon as he told you he had it repaired, the sale was final. End of discussion.


Idiots like this should be outed.

I disagree...calm down!

As seller, you can only take what the guy says at face value and react to it.

I say full refund only, no post sale price negotiation.

Return cost on buyer. Refund contingent upon receipt.

End relationship.
 
They ain't got no more Huebler's for sale.

No more Huebler cues left?
Damn it all, I'm done collecting.

One last thing, I would hate to see negative itraders in this situation
This does not merit a negative itrader, I would deal with either of them.
 
I disagree...calm down!

As seller, you can only take what the guy says at face value and react to it.

I say full refund only, no post sale price negotiation.

Return cost on buyer. Refund contingent upon receipt.

End relationship.

Right, I agree....but, buyer did'nt ship it back, he had it repaired. Then he tried to get the seller to pay for it. Wrong move.
 
Sold a cue to an AZ member, a cheap $100 cue.
Buyer gets it and says it hits very well and likes it but has a small roll and I quote it lifts a "quarter" which is about 1/32" which, in my opinion for a $100 cue is basically a taper roll or nothing that's warped or broken.

Next, he demands a 20% refund

I, the seller say I'll give you three options since I don't want to get fighting over a $100 cue:
1. Return it for a full refund including shipping
2. I'll refund 10%
3. Return it and I'll have it fixed on my dime

Next the buyer says he went ahead and had it fixed and is demending a refund of double what I offered and claims he'll start a bad thread about this $100 cue.

Am I in the wrong here? Was what I offered ok?

You can't determine how much curve is ok based on your opinion. $100 cues are joke cues to some but main players to others, as a pool enthusiast you wouldn't be pleased if you purchased a cue that had roll without previously having been informed.

That said, he should have informed you before he paid for repairs. In light of the situation you were as fair, after the fact, as you could be.

My opinion is the difference between a dissatisfied customer making bad noise and getting someone out of your hair here is an extra $10. Pay it, move on and be more upfront in the future so there isn't anymore misunderstandings.

I had a captain loan a guy money once, he said the guy never paid him back--I think the amount was $50. All the guys were like "I would have kicked his ass, etc." The captain just casually said, "$50 isn't going to make me or break me, it's up to him to prove himself."
 
I disagree...calm down!

As seller, you can only take what the guy says at face value and react to it.

I say full refund only, no post sale price negotiation.

Return cost on buyer. Refund contingent upon receipt.

End relationship.

This or nuttin'

I won't put up with the ever increasing extortion from buyers. You don't like it? Send it back, no questions asked. Try to scam me for a big post sale discount? Fuc u
 
it all goes back to sellers not telling exactly what the things that are wrong withg the cue are.

the buyer should have been told it rolled when put together with a quarter hump.

the buyer has no recourse after fixing it and that he has no time for this isnt the fault of the seller. yet he finds time to post about all this.

seller should still send the 20 bucks for his bad description. just because its a 100 dollar item doesnt mean you can leave out problems or expect something amiss.

both are over reacting here and can easily work it out.
 
wow

This or nuttin'

I won't put up with the ever increasing extortion from buyers. You don't like it? Send it back, no questions asked. Try to scam me for a big post sale discount? Fuc u

I just love this post.
First I don't log on all the time so when I ask him to make this easy and just send me 20, that way both of us won't be in vesting another 20 plus a piece ( which is more than 40 combined ) for it to go back and forth through the mail.
I didn't log back and even check just figures he would do it hell it's commonsense thing to do and cheaps route for both us.
 
I just love this post.
First I don't log on all the time so when I ask him to make this easy and just send me 20, that way both of us won't be in vesting another 20 plus a piece ( which is more than 40 combined ) for it to go back and forth through the mail.
I didn't log back and even check just figures he would do it hell it's commonsense thing to do and cheaps route for both us.

Maybe I missed it somehow, but why did you not just send it back in the first place? Your busy life notwithstanding, you still have found time to buy the cue to start with, try it out, get it repaired and post on here. And don't whine about the small cost of mailing it back. That's just an expected price that occurs occasionally when you buy something online. You could send it Priority Mail in one of those triangular boxes for probably 10-12 bucks. If that's gonna tip you over you probably should look into another hobby.
 
Ted

This or nuttin'

I won't put up with the ever increasing extortion from buyers. You don't like it? Send it back, no questions asked. Try to scam me for a big post sale discount? Fuc u

No more Huebler cues left?
Damn it all, I'm done collecting.

One last thing, I would hate to see negative itraders in this situation
This does not merit a negative itrader, I would deal with either of them.

Ted you of all people on here know what kind of cues I own and play with, I didn't buy the cue for my self I bought it for my 9 year old daughter.
She's been playing since she was 6 and she starting to get were she's making a few balls constantly, so I told her I get her her own cue.

Also Ted I'm not leaving any i trader you talked to me many times and done deals with me think know how I am. You know I'm always fair and honest I just want AZ members to no how he does business. I'm not worried about 20 bucks just don't like someone getting over on me.
If it had be an accident that would have been different but he was just dumping it off on someone else and it just happen to be me.
 
it all goes back to sellers not telling exactly what the things that are wrong withg the cue are.

the buyer should have been told it rolled when put together with a quarter hump.

the buyer has no recourse after fixing it and that he has no time for this isnt the fault of the seller. yet he finds time to post about all this.

seller should still send the 20 bucks for his bad description. just because its a 100 dollar item doesnt mean you can leave out problems or expect something amiss.

both are over reacting here and can easily work it out.

I agree 110% on each point
Nice post that makes perfect sense

About the 100-dollar production cue business, playing with one is one thing, but
selling one on AZ Billiards is a brave thing to do....in my opinion.
I would always look on Ebay to buy something like that, definitely not AZ.
 
Sweating it or what ever your name is reread thread. Also it 16 plus a box to ship it back then he would have shipped it back so which way is cheaper.
See unlike you I don't live on the Internet hell I don't even have face book.
 
You know I'm always fair and honest I just want AZ members to no how he does business. I'm not worried about 20 bucks just don't like someone getting over on me.
If it had be an accident that would have been different but he was just dumping it off on someone else and it just happen to be me.[/QUOTE]

Let me get this straight -

You bought the cue for $100 and I am assuming that the shipping was included in that price, as you were paying the shipping back. So by your own math - $25 of that $100 was shipping leaving him with $75.

You received the cue and it was unsatisfactory, at which point the seller offered a full refund if you returned it, among other options. You refused these options and demanded $20 back - which would be almost 30% of what the seller is netting at this point after shipping.

You then ignored the means of communication used for the transaction for over a week, despite this being an issue, just assuming that everyone would just pay you.

After a week has gone by and the seller did not agree to your demand, you then resorted to extortion by saying that if you didn't get your money, you would come to AZ and talk bad.

Yes....I can see how this is an OBVIOUS case of him getting one over on you.
 
Ted

I agree 110% on each point
Nice post that makes perfect sense

About the 100-dollar production cue business, playing with one is one thing, but
selling one on AZ Billiards is a brave thing to do....in my opinion.
I would always look on Ebay to buy something like that, definitely not AZ.

I just happen to log on and seen it and for 100 bucks and it said straight and sound so I thought what hell. My daughter been wanting her own cue and she's starting to play better so I thought it make a great starter cue plus I help out a fellow AZ members.
 
Ted you of all people on here know what kind of cues I own and play with, I didn't buy the cue for my self I bought it for my 9 year old daughter.
She's been playing since she was 6 and she starting to get were she's making a few balls constantly, so I told her I get her her own cue.

Also Ted I'm not leaving any i trader you talked to me many times and done deals with me think know how I am. You know I'm always fair and honest I just want AZ members to no how he does business. I'm not worried about 20 bucks just don't like someone getting over on me.
If it had be an accident that would have been different but he was just dumping it off on someone else and it just happen to be me.

Sean, you are a good guy and I enjoy dealing with you however....
Both of you guys did something that I would not have done.
I make many mistakes, big mistakes, but I don't take them or threaten to take them public.
Like you said the cue was cheaper on Ebay, so that was a mistake that just needed to be chalked up to experience.
On the other hand, AZ Billiards really isn't the place to sell this cheap stuff, the
seller should have disclosed the roll, and the 20-bucks was cheap to make it go away.

Take this type of business to Ebay where it belongs, nobody is squeaky clean here.
I always end up giving away those 100 dollar cues that roll funny for free, I have
many times which is why I stay away from them.
 
JasBy you spot on I'm extortion expert.
First he want me to send it friends and family and I told him I pay the paypal fees
for him and I did. Does this sound like and extortion.
Please pay attention if your going to slam me I had already told him hell with the 20
If he's that broke keep it.

Me and my wife make a very comfortable living I don't need to screw people over.
If you don't believe me ask few members who are on here who live in the Louisville Ky area.
Thanks for the great post tho.
 
Sean, you are a good guy and I enjoy dealing with you however....
Both of you guys did something that I would not have done.
I make many mistakes, big mistakes, but I don't take them or threaten to take them public.
Like you said the cue was cheaper on Ebay, so that was a mistake that just needed to be chalked up to experience.
On the other hand, AZ Billiards really isn't the place to sell this cheap stuff, the
seller should have disclosed the roll, and the 20-bucks was cheap to make it go away.

Take this type of business to Ebay where it belongs, nobody is squeaky clean here.
I always end up giving away those 100 dollar cues that roll funny for free, I have
many times which is why I stay away from them.

You are 100% rite Ted we all drop the ball once in awhile.
I actually bought it cause dean in another thread said if you find one that's straight and put a good shaft on it it make a decent player. Thought it be great starter cue .

Thanks for the replies and voice of reason hope all is well out their in great Colorado.
 
This or nuttin'

I won't put up with the ever increasing extortion from buyers. You don't like it? Send it back, no questions asked. Try to scam me for a big post sale discount? Fuc u

Lol, I agree. Funny thing is; prior to me reading Moets response, I thoughthink 90% I was gonna know who the buyer was lololol!
 
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