Buying without trying

Purchase a cue by "feel," not by name, reviews, or looks.

Some players living remotely far from the states might have experinced what i have. I've been wanting to pick up a nice playing cue without the opportunity to put it on test. Where i live, players, amateurs or pros most, if not all, play with predator. Not sure if it's the choice of weapon or it's the only well known brand available.

The question is, if you were to purchase a custom player but didn't know how it would play, would you gamble your money anyway?

Would you purchase a cue just based reviews in the forum?

I would like to hear some opinions.

stardust:

Short answer to would I purchase a cue just based on reviews in a forum? No.

First reason: a cue's "feel" is a very personal thing. What may feel good to some, may not feel good to you. You perhaps may like, oh, say, a rearward-balanced cue, but lots of other folks may like a forward-balanced cue. Or, you might prefer a smaller or larger diameter to the butt/gripping area (don't forget, people come in all shapes and sizes, and there are many different sizes of hands -- one diameter butt does not "fit all"). Many, many other reasons abound, including grip, diameter of shaft, resonance of the cue when hitting the cue ball, etc.

Second reason: one word -- marketing. Predator markets their product so profusely and so prominently, that their name is at the top of every pool player's mind. Predator's name is omni-present precisely because of this successful marketing campaign. I'm not saying this is wrong; I'm just saying don't be a lemming in a long line of lemmings jumping off the Predator cliff sight-unseen, "because it's the safe choice." Try a Predator yourself. Put a blindfold on, if you have to, to prevent the markings and branding on the cue from swaying your decision merely because of "eye candy" (admittedly, that cat logo is very cool). Feel the cue, shoot with it for a while (at least a rack or so). Judge for yourself. You may find you like a Predator cue. Or not. But at least you gave it the ol' "boy scout try." Personally, the only Predator product I liked, was the original 314 shaft. But something changed after that product, and I can't quite put my finger on it -- I find the products after the original 314 to be, for lack of a better term, "ho hum." But that's just my personal impression -- and that's the whole point of my post, to let you know this is a very personal thing. You need to try cues for yourself.

Is that to say that if you purchase a Predator sight-unseen, would you be unhappy with it? No. You might find you'll "adapt" to it, especially if the looks appeal to you (there's that "eye candy" thing again). But the real way to purchase a cue, a cue that you'll really attach to and become part of you, is if you select by feel.

Many a cue I've purchased over my lifetime that was based purely on feel, that I later sold, that I now regret. And yes, I've done the blind purchase thing, and the cue turned out "ok," but it didn't have the magic of the cues that I purchased primarily for their feel and hit.

I hope this is helpful!
-Sean
 
Thanks so far for all the tips n recommendations. I've been thinking like most of u suggesting that try as many cues as i can or have one made to my personal specs. The thing is just to get a cue here is gonna cost me at least $30 for shipping. If i tried 5 cues a year, it would have cost $300 alone on shipping.

Once i bought a pred shaft from a well known pred dealer on ebay. Cost me $25 for shipping. Got the shaft but small crater about few inches from ferrule. The dealer said no way he would have sent such product. After few emails he agreed to exchange the shaft but i would have to ship the shaft back to us and pay shipping for the replacement shaft.

Last year bought a cue from a reliable cue maker (based on reviews). The shaft was not evenly round. About few inches from ferrule down the shaft was oval shape. The cue cost me $250. Ship to oz was $45. Sending the shaft back for replacement would cost about the same. Later on sold the cue on ebay for $150 shipped to germany (which cost me $55).

I am so jealous of you guys living in the US. Here we only have one predator dealer for the whole continent. They sell only predator not other brands and mark it up around 50%. We dont have expo or anything like that. When you go to big events prob 90% play with predator. I have played with most of production cues but would like to play with a nice custom player. I have played with a soutwest for like 5 min. It felt amazing. Lol.

As for skill, i'm only an enthusiast, love pool so much. I only have a rough idea of how i would like my cue to play.

Happy New Year guys. Wishing u all the best. May in 2010 we all could finally find our perfect cue. Lol
 
Well here is my advice to add to the pile.

Lets take Paul Drexler cues. I find them to play very similar cue to cue. I think for the most part a cuemakers cues play consistant. So if the question is I played with Ken's Pfd cue and I liked the hit, balance, etc. I think you should expect if you get one for yourself, it will be very similar.

For me, the "hit" is in the taper of the shaft, the tip, ferrelle, and joint, in that order. I almost always either have Moori soft tips installed as new or if I pick up a cue that I plan on keeping, I have it switched.

Finally, deal with some of the guys here including me. I offer money back guarentee, less shipping on everything I sell. I do this not for a try it out and decide but more to assure the buyer that my cues are legit and take the "gamble" out of the equalsion.

Ken
 
Last year bought a cue from a reliable cue maker (based on reviews). The shaft was not evenly round. About few inches from ferrule down the shaft was oval shape. The cue cost me $250. Ship to oz was $45. Sending the shaft back for replacement would cost about the same. Later on sold the cue on ebay for $150 shipped to germany (which cost me $55).

I am so jealous of you guys living in the US. Here we only have one predator dealer for the whole continent. They sell only predator not other brands and mark it up around 50%. We dont have expo or anything like that. When you go to big events prob 90% play with predator. I have played with most of production cues but would like to play with a nice custom player. I have played with a soutwest for like 5 min. It felt amazing. Lol.


no cue is perfect specially not for $250 (some are very playable and some will have minor flaws, a few will be fubar....ive never noticed an "oval" shaft before...that would be wierd. even some of the $1500 cues have their flaws.

sounds to me like you have a buisiness oportunity their in australia.

if your not really picky id think you could make any decent cue you bought into "your" stick....you know what kind of wrap you like ,shaft diameterm, and general balance...you can come close.
 
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