xX-Wizard-Xx
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The never ending tip stories
Caiden tip and product review
- Thread starter Bamacues
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Caiden tips are great. Very consistent. The bitching about price is a bit funny, seeing how many players who play with $1000+ cues.. after all the tip is the part that actually touches the CB. I offer my customers all the big brands, at last count that's something like 80 different tips. People like different things and some are very brand loyal. Premium brands today are very consistent, this year I have had one faulty tip, I have probably done about 500 tip jobs thus far in 2024.
Paul_#_
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1. Did you mean instead of an impact plate, a ferrule?
2. I presume Predator Vantage shafts have no impact or vault plate. Do you agree?
3. As I understand it, a vault plate is a t-shaped ferrule-like material inserted only into hollow CF shafts. The vault-plate lip is glued to a silencer pad and, that, to the cue tip.
3. There were two black bands in the tip you installed. Would you play and wear this tip down past the first black band?
Here's a photo of their Fighter tips and, below that, a tip with brown, black, and white layers (with comments on those layers; see https://www.instagram.com/p/C-LWv50zVA9/ ):
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You are correct... poor wording on my part. I used a black acrylic "pad" to mount the Caiden tip to... I did not bore down into the ferrule, etc, and install a "true" impact plate.
Paul_#_
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Bamacues' tip has two black layers in the tip he installed. One is part of the tip while the other is the black pad that Bamacues placed on ferrule. I could use the top one---made of leather---as a tire-tread wear inidicator.......
The photo I showed of a Caiden tip showed five layers and I don't think any were a pad. They are used on Richard Hsu's RJH Cues' Hsunami shaft:
Correct... and as for the question as to would I use the black layer of the Caiden as the marker to change it...
Probably so, but honestly, it would depend on how it played at that stage. When you reach the black layer, you still have 3 layers of tip left. Personally, I don't like "tall" tips. I cut them down quite a bit, when I install one. People often complain about the cost of a tip, but $30 is a drop in the bucket in the grander scheme of things, as far as pool-related expenses go.
If the tip plays good at that level, I will keep playing with it.
Just like everytime you post
Sos
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Probably can’t play a lick
Has your friend reached out to the seller or contacted Caiden Brand directly? Their customer service team will 100% take care of it.
Email: hello@caidenbrand.com
I too am impressed with the Caiden fighter. I had it installed on my Scott Gilmore keilwood shaft on my Richard Black cue.
Paul_#_
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BamaCues reviewed Caiden's Fighter cue tip. Do you have comments on Caiden's Warrior?
Tip-bored xX-Wizard-Xs may post positively on the better and different Warrior.
It is the only tip a tip-maker brags that the tip makes a pleasing clicking sound that provides important feedback. TxBullDog liked the sound of Caiden's Fighter and that was probably due more to happenstance. The Warrior, however, is designed to sound good.
On PoolDawg, only one of thirteen reviewers of Warrior mentioned the sound. He wrote, "I also like the sound and feedback I get for well and poorly stroked shots".
On Reddit, a player found the Warrior's sound close to that of a miscue! But, as another poster noted, the sound may have been due to an air pocket caused by a faulty tip install.
Seybert's described the Warrior's new sound feature:
R2B sound layering technology --- a finely tuned internal acoustic system built into the layering process. It delivers clear auditory feedback on contact, so players not only feel the strike but also hear the quality of each shot. This “click” becomes a performance cue, reinforcing stroke confidence and helping refine shot execution.
Got comments on Caiden Warrior's sound?
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I have used and installed almost every tip
Over the last 25 years and while I will say most tips that cost roughly $20 more are pretty decent quality but mainly a personal preference thing and then you have your single layer tips like triangle, etc. very cheap but some people like them they are fine. I will say when I found in the last year though is the tips that Whitten are producing are absolutely heads above everything else on the market from a playability standpoint and from an installation standpoint like Joe’s cases, they are simply flawless, and in my opinion, the best.
Over the last 25 years and while I will say most tips that cost roughly $20 more are pretty decent quality but mainly a personal preference thing and then you have your single layer tips like triangle, etc. very cheap but some people like them they are fine. I will say when I found in the last year though is the tips that Whitten are producing are absolutely heads above everything else on the market from a playability standpoint and from an installation standpoint like Joe’s cases, they are simply flawless, and in my opinion, the best.
Hey Paul,
According to Caiden Brand, I think both tips are designed to sound good to resonate the cue's natural sound.
However, the Warrior does have a different sound as compared to the Fighter. From my personal experience, the Warrior has a higher pitch but lower volume as compared to the Fighter. One can imagine a higher frequency but lower amplitude sound. Although higher-pitched, it definitely does not sound like a miscue whatsoever. '
For me personally, I much prefer the sound of the Warrior as it provides me with clear feedback on how I hit the ball (eg, how far off centre, spin amount). As for the feel of the tip, it has the same clean feedback as its predecessor, but with even better control. The Warrior, for me, is the most consistent and user-friendly tip around with its predictable spin and crazy good feedback.
Hope that helps.
According to Caiden Brand, I think both tips are designed to sound good to resonate the cue's natural sound.
However, the Warrior does have a different sound as compared to the Fighter. From my personal experience, the Warrior has a higher pitch but lower volume as compared to the Fighter. One can imagine a higher frequency but lower amplitude sound. Although higher-pitched, it definitely does not sound like a miscue whatsoever. '
For me personally, I much prefer the sound of the Warrior as it provides me with clear feedback on how I hit the ball (eg, how far off centre, spin amount). As for the feel of the tip, it has the same clean feedback as its predecessor, but with even better control. The Warrior, for me, is the most consistent and user-friendly tip around with its predictable spin and crazy good feedback.
Hope that helps.
Paul_#_
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Paul_#_
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Given the reviews at PoolDawg, it appears the Warrior sound is not that different from other tips. Still, this is interesting given Caiden's description at Seybert's website of the Warrior tip emphasizes its sound while there is no mention of sound in the Fighter description. Here, again, is the Warrior description from Seybert's advertisement and its 'clear auditory feedback':
Adding to its performance is R2B™ Sound Layering Technology—a finely tuned internal acoustic system built into the layering process. It delivers clear auditory feedback on contact, so players not only feel the strike but also hear the quality of each shot. This “click” becomes a performance cue, reinforcing stroke confidence and helping refine shot execution.