calling a safe playing 10 ball

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cesarmorales

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In a prior post I had some questions about the incoming player handing a shot back. Responses said that was not the norm. It was just a rule played in some tournament, etc.

I have not played much 10 ball but the only way I have played in the past was if you missed your shot the incoming player could give it back to you. If you wanted to hook somebody you would need to call a safe.

So, if that is not true then when would you ever want to call a safe?
 
You only call safe in a game where your opponent can give a called shot back if you miss. You call safe, the opponent has to shoot.

Called safe /called shot is how all rotation games should be played. Why anybody wants to win and lose on rolls is beyond my comprehension.
 
cesarmorales said:
In a prior post I had some questions about the incoming player handing a shot back. Responses said that was not the norm. It was just a rule played in some tournament, etc.

I have not played much 10 ball but the only way I have played in the past was if you missed your shot the incoming player could give it back to you. If you wanted to hook somebody you would need to call a safe.

So, if that is not true then when would you ever want to call a safe?
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Actual 10 ball rules only say it's a push if you make an uncalled ball without making your called ball. I don't see the point of that rule, but that's what it is.

9.7 Wrongfully Pocketed Balls
If a player misses his intended ball and pocket, and either makes the nominated ball in the wrong pocket or pockets another ball, his inning has finished and the incoming player has the option to take the shot as is, or hand it back to his opponent.
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Never seen that rule used

I just shoot a hook. Then just walk away. Was it a safe/ Was it a miss? Usaully the other guy eats it.
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World titles are won and lost on slop...and you guys want people to take pool seriously.
 
Just as a courtesy to my opponent, to avoid confusion about what you're doing. I prefer my opponent do the same, but it's usually pretty obvious.
 
Unless your name is Shane, Corey, Rodney, Dennis, Efren or Alex, you don't get to dictate the only game you'll play is "call shot-call safe" 10 ball. Neither do we want you on the TV table, nor will we stream your match because you're special. Either you have testicles larger than raisins and you'll step up and play, or you don't. The rules work the same for both players. Oh, and we will use a 20 second shot clock for all you 10 ball wizards that think you're playing One-Pocket.
 
Why does that matter?

cueenvy said:
World titles are won and lost on slop...and you guys want people to take pool seriously.
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Football, Basketball, baseball, bowling, GOLF.., ALL full of luck and they are all taken seriously.

If you play well and play enough you'll get your chance to get lucky too.
 
King T said:
Football, Basketball, baseball, bowling, GOLF.., ALL full of luck and they are all taken seriously.

If you play well and play enough you'll get your chance to get lucky too.
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It is quite the opposite with better players. When two players of equal skill play a set there can be just a handful of
times they get to the table. You see it all the time where a guy misses wildly and gets safe by accident. The other player misses kick or sells out and the one who got lucky wins the next few games. Or they luck in a ball and get to continue the runout. There's no skill in rolling lucky. The fewer innings it takes to win, the deeper the luck cuts...just not the best way to play imo when there's better rules available.
 
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If you want luck-free pool then play 14.1. Problem is you'll probably die of boredom before you get any good.
 
cueenvy said:
World titles are won and lost on slop...and you guys want people to take pool seriously.
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That actually happens so rarely, it is seldom even a factor!..98% of all important tournaments, are won by whoever is playing the best in that particular event!..Yes, the 'good roll/bad roll' scenario can come into play occasionally, but if you want to be realistic, those things will eventually even out.

This can be observed by how few big matches (cash or tounaments) actually make it to hill/hill in the first place..All the hand wringing, and rule changing, will never make pool "luck-proof"!..People who are obsessed with the 'roll factor', should pursue other games NOT played with round balls!....For real 'nail-biting' excitement..let me suggest darts, backgammon, or chess!..;)

PS..Yes, pool can definitely be taken seriously, if people would just realize that it will always be, (and should be) a game of inches!..Thats why skill will usually prevail, and why players are rated and ranked accordingly!
 
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