Can a tournament that is handicapped be an Open tournament ?

david(tx)

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My understanding is an Open tournament is open to all and not handicapped , someone listed a tournament as Open but it is handicapped . What do you say ?
 
I think it can.

Open means that anyone can pay and play.

Handicapping is what happens when those open players are rated somehow by the TD.

Personally, I think it would be next to impossible to accurately handicap players that might show up off the street to play in an open tournament.
 
I think it can.

Open means that anyone can pay and play.

Handicapping is what happens when those open players are rated somehow by the TD.

Personally, I think it would be next to impossible to accurately handicap players that might show up off the street to play in an open tournament.




Thx Nut , i agree about handicapping somebody who just walks in , i've never played a rack of league pool , guess if you became a regular at the room they could rate you .
 
I think it can.

Open means that anyone can pay and play.

Handicapping is what happens when those open players are rated somehow by the TD.

Personally, I think it would be next to impossible to accurately handicap players that might show up off the street to play in an open tournament.

Usually in the case of a stranger who comes in off the street to play in a handicap tournament, they get a very high handicap regardless of how they appear to play.
 
In the locally run handicapped tournaments, it's just like was stated above. The open tournaments are open to all (no skill level cap) while there are others for say, 8 and under for 9 ball or no Super 7's for 8 ball. It gives the lower ranked guys a fighting chance. As for guys off the street, if nobody knows them they usually start at around a mid-level average handicap; if they're actually not handicapped and don't have the experience playing in the league or other rules-format, they don't have a good chance no matter what. If it becomes obvious they were lying, they will at best get their entry fee back on the way out the door.
 
Yup. I had a friend who didn't speak any english. He showed up at a tournament and wanted to play. Noone knew who he was except me either because I had never been to this place before myself.

I told them he could play and he wasn't trying to rob the tournament. He genuinely just heard about this tournament and came to win.

Of course he won the tournament and the regulars were pissed, but there wasn't much they could do because they were told he could play some.

I walked with him to his car to make sure these guys didn't try to whoop on him. I think they thought I was responsible for bringing him, but I had never been to this place either.
 
In Arizona we have tournaments like this every week. OPEN to any and all players, but the race is handicapped. This only works because we have a state handicap system that buckets people in a range of 3 - 10, plus a couple higher spots for short stops and pro's.

If someone not rated comes in, they have to play as the top rating the first time, sometimes longer. Sometimes new players will be rated before tournaments (err on the high end).
 
In California at the Jointed Cue in Sacramento, there is a tournament every week that is open but weaker players pay less to get in and better players pay more to get in. This is an example I guess of an open tournament that is handicapped by the entry fee. No handicaps once play begins. It's a short race to 4 single elimination.
 
In California at the Jointed Cue in Sacramento, there is a tournament every week that is open but weaker players pay less to get in and better players pay more to get in. This is an example I guess of an open tournament that is handicapped by the entry fee. No handicaps once play begins. It's a short race to 4 single elimination.




You know , that sounds better than giving games , if i was the better player i would like it , and the lesser player gets some cheap lessons . Is the handicapping in house ?
 
Imagination...it's the stuff of creation !

This problem calls for thinking out of the box

1. Is a open tournament that uses a handicapping system truly an open tournament ?

No, Open means Come one Come all....take your shot...take it down or take a fall.....and thanks for comin.

This newfangled configuration designed to increase audience participation and decrease legal litigation caused by our economic situation [...4 more years....go Big O ! ]....deserves its' own title.

I proudly submit "Handicopen" or if you like "Opencappin."

Either way it's bound to attract the Euro's.

And we leave the classification "OPEN" to its traditional definition....

"IF YOU GOT THE BALLS - WE GOT THE RACK"



M.A
[Medina' Agent]

All Rights Reserved....but I'm "Open" to negotiations
 
This problem calls for thinking out of the box

1. Is a open tournament that uses a handicapping system truly an open tournament ?

No, Open means Come one Come all....take your shot...take it down or take a fall.....and thanks for comin.

This newfangled configuration designed to increase audience participation and decrease legal litigation caused by our economic situation [...4 more years....go Big O ! ]....deserves its' own title.

I proudly submit "Handicopen" or if you like "Opencappin."

Either way it's bound to attract the Euro's.

And we leave the classification "OPEN" to its traditional definition....

"IF YOU GOT THE BALLS - WE GOT THE RACK"



M.A
[Medina' Agent]

All Rights Reserved....but I'm "Open" to negotiations


Ok Cash, Put down the pipe & bottle and go to bed. :shocked:

Ray
 
Handicapped tournaments SUCK !!! Someone always has an UNFAIR advantage because of politics. Now they have handicapped tours so even if you beat the unfair races, the tournament director takes half the money. Worst thing to ever happen to pool.
 
Handicapped tournaments SUCK !!! Someone always has an UNFAIR advantage because of politics. Now they have handicapped tours so even if you beat the unfair races, the tournament director takes half the money. Worst thing to ever happen to pool.

What else do you not like?
randyg
 
In Arizona we have tournaments like this every week. OPEN to any and all players, but the race is handicapped. This only works because we have a state handicap system that buckets people in a range of 3 - 10, plus a couple higher spots for short stops and pro's.


Yes they do but most of the TIME the "A" is the Winner, and the "B" & "C" Player just add to the WINNERS POT.

I had an idea a while back I posted, MAYBE...The Perfect Pool Tournament with a “A”, “B”, and “C” Handicapped Format.;):):wink:
 
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