can u put down a substrate before stapling remove later w\o pulling staple by hand
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Why staple at all, I glue the cloth on the slate, and finish the pockets with staples only, and I assure you I can install the bed cloth tighter than you can using staplesOTLB said:
and I don't have all those staples to pull out the next time, and...I don't have to modify the slates to be able to remove staples. Glen
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I think gluing might be better, but if you have your staple gun out already why bother?
actually I have tried webbing on the sides of slate with no luck ,plastic strips, and screening,
I don't see how you could pull it more than stapling, I do think you can get it more even though as the tension would be more uniform.
Although when I do billiard tables I snap a line on the cloth and pull it tight and right and even to the edges of the snapped line. You do billiard tables with glue also?
actually I have tried webbing on the sides of slate with no luck ,plastic strips, and screening,
I don't see how you could pull it more than stapling, I do think you can get it more even though as the tension would be more uniform.
Although when I do billiard tables I snap a line on the cloth and pull it tight and right and even to the edges of the snapped line. You do billiard tables with glue also?
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How would you install the bed cloth on a GC that has the backer boards all stapled out, or missing chunks of backer boards? And if your answer is to glue the cloth, explain what kind of glue, and how you'd do it?OTLB said:
Glen
OTLB
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I coud use regular contact cement on the sides of the slate with a roller and tray, I have done this on 9 ft bar tables with one piece slate and it worked fine and had no probelms with it later. Put on Both Basalt and Simonis. After I have pulled the cloth I go over the top of it on the sides with a little roller to make sure its melded on
Yes, I install the Simonis Rapid 300 on Gabriels 5 x 10 billiards tables the same way, and yes I put it on tighter than anyone ever could with a staple gun.OTLB said:
What kind of 9ft bar tables have you recovered with 1 piece slates in them, I'd really like to know...if you don't mind my asking, as a mechanic you should know what the tables were.
Glen
Where do you place the glue??OTLB said:
Glen
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I might get you to come by and finish my table?
Yes you can pull it tighter with glue then with a staple gun. Just looking at the end product it looks better, feels better. Take a digital micrometer use it as a depth gauge over a rail bolt hole and see how much the cloth doesnt flex.
You really have to try it Glens way to belive it. Since I started this way my tips and call backs for recovers are growing every month. Even customers tables i did with Glen are calling me to come back to recover there Gabrial or Diamond table.
It's a technique that you must accept and not reject it. You can apply it to stapling also but gluing is cleaner and smoother looking then the rough edges of stapling.
Craig
You really have to try it Glens way to belive it. Since I started this way my tips and call backs for recovers are growing every month. Even customers tables i did with Glen are calling me to come back to recover there Gabrial or Diamond table.
It's a technique that you must accept and not reject it. You can apply it to stapling also but gluing is cleaner and smoother looking then the rough edges of stapling.
Craig
JCJR said:
You almost have to see it to get it.
I did about 90% of every other table with staples, but once I got Glen's method, it iscleaner, tighter and all around better than anything I could achieve with staples.
Not to get on anyone's bandwagon, but if it's a better method, that is pretty much impossible to improve upon, I'm going to have to say it's the best way out there.
And your slates' backing will thank you for it.
But, getting it done correctly, all I can say is, your fingers won't bleed from stapling.
Stretching Simonis with the goodglue, pretty much guarantees it.
There are enough people on here that have seen me stretch with both methods, that can attest to how tight I can get cloth to stretch, but with the glue, it's absolutely the cleanest way there is.
No split threads to leave streaks in your cloth, no rips and tears, and no missfires from your stapler.
I'll post new pics, or repost some of our older pics to prove the point.
It's especially nice when someone doesn't cut the cloth right.
If you contact glen realkingcobra he might let you help him out on a table or two, he will be selling dvd soon on the procedure. I can talk to you about it and on my myspace page are some photo's on how the glue is used it wil give you an idea. It looks kinda wierd but it works.
First time i did it this way with Glen all i could do was laugh it makes all other ways look caveman style with a staple gun.
Craig Herman
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First time i did it this way with Glen all i could do was laugh it makes all other ways look caveman style with a staple gun.
Craig Herman
916-825-2036