MajorMiscue
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Jump cues. They are for people who can't kick and won't bother to learn.
Carbon Fiber Shafts should be Banned
- Thread starter Minnesota Phat
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It the latest greatest
that 
y people bought into.CF has been around 100 years plus, so your f****** wrong.
Just had been adapted to Pool Shafts.
Predator, OB, now CF fad. Fads die, like slot car racing of the 60’s, now people say what???
History lesson.
Carbon fibers - Wikipedia
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Minnesota Phat
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The MLB bans aluminum bats because they look and sound crappy - they are used in high school and college because they are cheaper in the long run, since they don't break.
When I went from wood bats to aluminum bats, I could hit the ball much harder - yippee (sarcasm intended).
Imagine if MLB was like the world of billiards - no more low-tech crack of the bat - instead we'd get a high-tech *TINK*. Again - YUCK.
MajorMiscue
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I started with CF building arrows and fishing rods in the early 80s (bought the blanks and "assembled" is more accurate). The benefits were obvious and immediate. Suddenly arrow speeds jumped from 230fps to 300fps. Rods were lighter, stronger and recovered from deflection faster. CF pool cue shafts were a natural progression.It the latest greatest
CF has been around 100 year plus, so your fooling wrong.
Just had been adapted to Pool Shafts.
Predator, OB, now CF fad.
History lesson.
Carbon fibers - Wikipedia
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Minnesota Phat
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I'm familiar with this video, but thank you for including it, so that others can see what I was obliquely referencing.
Remember Carbon Fibre was used in Arrows 50 years ago.
That's not the main reason. Balls would fly out on almost any decent contact. A lot of pitchers have said they'd retire is alum was allowed. Ball speed off aluminum is WAAAY highr than wood. Current COR bats used in college have been modified to bring ball speed down to that of wood. Fact.
IMO, if carbon shafts were banned it would make absolutely no difference in the order of who wins or who loses. The most talented players with the greatest commitment to improving will be the winners. Carbon fiber, IMO, is the best material, at the moment, for shafts. Probably butts too. But to add to the merriment of this post, I think players walking around the table trying to determine where the cue ball should stop for the next shot should be banned. I shoot from wherever the cue ball stops regardless of where it should have stopped.
I'm not talking about the carbon threads used in light-bulbs. Carbon-fiber as we now know it was developed in the mid/late 1950's. History lesson. Don't believe this? https://dragonplate.com/a-brief-history-of-carbon-fiberIt the latest greatest
CF has been around 100 years plus, so your f****** wrong.
Just had been adapted to Pool Shafts.
Predator, OB, now CF fad. Fads die, like slot car racing of the 60’s, now people say what???
History lesson.
Carbon fibers - Wikipedia
It wouldn't be easier for the infielders.....plus, their faces would be rearranged by the impact of many baseballs.
spin-right-round
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And I don’t see a thing wrong with it. Is that dude a genius for building this system? Yes. Will it completely take over the human factor in pool? Probably not.I'm familiar with this video, but thank you for including it, so that others can see what I was obliquely referencing.
I respect your opinions and can’t say much about the looks part, but definitely suggest trying a few other cf shafts before knocking them based solely on sound
None of those are the primary cause aluminum bars are barred from mlb.
Your conclusion is fine for you, to claim it should be so for all s not.
DryFlyTrout
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If he were alive and competing today, there's a very good chance he'd use a CF shaft because his sponsor would pay him to. Even if he didn't truly believe it was the best possible performing material.
I'd bet the majority of the CF haters here would play with one for the right amount of dollars. And tell you how great it was...
Interesting read on this. https://www.acs.psu.edu/drussell/bats/alumwood.html
MajorMiscue
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Nope, MLB should start using CF bats. They would definitely be strong enough and the weight/balance could be easily adjusted. Fill the interior void and no "TINK".
Mizuno made some about 20yrs ago. Sounded/played like wood. At the time cost was the factor. I agree they should look at them again. Very durable compared to ash. Most players today use maple which is far more durable which is probably why cf hasn't been re-introduced.
Minnesota Phat
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That greatly depends upon the people who guide the future of pool.
Find me a billionaire backer, and you'll see carbon fiber and phenolic break tips rendered utterly useless in all big-money tournaments. If such a thing comes to pass, pool players of the future will laugh about the "fake pool cue fad" that was dominant in 2022.
If such a thing does come to pass, the next fad will be a "back to basics" fad, and people will start becoming more aware of the sights and sounds of pool.
Does the idea of a carbon fiber shaft fitted to your favorite cue-maker's masterpiece turn your stomach? Be honest.
I heard that there's a cocobolo substitute that provides better performance than cocobolo - it's jet black, but you can color it any way you like, and the nanotechnology properties of cocofake-o will improve your game 50%!
Minnesota Phat
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Laser-sighted, nano-tech-honeycomb, automated cues are a natural progression.
Robots shoot with a 99.999999% accuracy rate, compared to the piddly 99% accuracy rate of the world's greatest players.
R2-D2 can shoot a billiards ball 5,000 ft into a 2 2/3" aperture, thus providing a thrilling and natural progression of pool from a blood-and-flesh sport into a cold steel sport.
Once big enough pieces of slate can be assembled, pool will enter a new era of droid wonderfulness, and the idea of a pool table that is less than 80 football fields long will be sneered upon.
Heck, even C3PO can hit a 200 foot jump shot.
Petiole buy the latest greatest product because of slick advertising, hype, or celebrity endorsement.
Remember as kid standing in 5 n 10 stores, watch pitchmen sell their latest greatest product.
One item that worked well was knife made of glass, cut any thing well.
Could go most kitchen chores with it, secret was very sharp, and almost impossible to full.
Good quality steel knife did same thing.
But people bought those magic glass knives because if hype, demo pitchmen did.
Remember as kid standing in 5 n 10 stores, watch pitchmen sell their latest greatest product.
One item that worked well was knife made of glass, cut any thing well.
Could go most kitchen chores with it, secret was very sharp, and almost impossible to full.
Good quality steel knife did same thing.
But people bought those magic glass knives because if hype, demo pitchmen did.
this is about the worst and most hilarious post i have read in a long long time. I have used them and prefer wood too, but, I also see the value in the carbon fiber!! If you are "in stroke" and you have skills = GREAT TOOL. If you are not playing much and your skills are not at peak, stick to wood.
EXPECT LESS OF YOU< FROM OTHERS.
TFT