Carom table sizes

Dean_H

Dean_H

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I was looking at carom tables the other day on the internet and came across the term "match", as in full match means 5x10 feet table. Does half match mean 2.5x 5 foot table?

Also if a person were to buy a small Korean table to play normal carom billiards with 61.5 mm balls would that person have to change the rails? I ask because the korean 4 ball game balls are 65mm, I think.

Thanks:o
 
Wish I had a more specific answer for you, but I can say that I played for a few months at a Korean place on a smaller table (I think 8 ft.) and the table played great with a 'standard' set of white, yellow, red Aramiths. I don't think they were 65 mm. And though I never grabbed a set of the two red, two white Korean balls to test their size, all the guys around me used them and they seemed to roll normally.

One note: If you learned to play three cushion on a 10 foot table and you drop down to a smaller one, you will play amazing for a while! My average jumped up ... a lot.

...then I took up English billiards on a snooker table and my average is ...down... a lot.
 
I was in Amsterdam about 20 years ago and you would find 7'rs in bars/cafes all over the place. I played on one of them and it appeared to be the standard size balls, too.

Dave
 
12squared said:
I was in Amsterdam about 20 years ago and you would find 7'rs in bars/cafes all over the place. I played on one of them and it appeared to be the standard size balls, too.

Dave
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Whwat kind of average does that give?! I can't imagine they use top-grade cloth, but still...one would expect it to rain in large spurts!

And your new avatar...looks like Poudre Park?
 
Gabriels makes 3 1/2' x 7', 4' x 8', 4 1/2' x 9', and 5' x 10' carom billiard tables. All tables use the same balls and have the same rail height. All tables come standard with Simonis 300 Rapide - a very fast cloth designed for 3 cushion billiards. Oriental billiard tables are typically unheated and use slower cloth. This is due to the fact that the main game is straight rail (which is easier to play if the table is slow.)
 
I was thinking of the Korean tables because I do want to play Straight rail, slower cloth is a little easier. If I have my own table I won't have to use up a table at my local billiard hall, which will give the three cushion players another full size match table to play thier favorite game on. I will look into the Gabriel carom billiard table option though. I usually see the European tables sizes in meters. Now I know that they come in American pool table sizes.

Thanks everybody.
 
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Gabriels makes 3 1/2' x 7', 4' x 8', 4 1/2' x 9', and 5' x 10' carom billiard tables. All tables use the same balls and have the same rail height. All tables come standard with Simonis 300 Rapide - a very fast cloth designed for 3 cushion billiards. Oriental billiard tables are typically unheated and use slower cloth. This is due to the fact that the main game is straight rail (which is easier to play if the table is slow.)
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so does that mean the inside of a 5x10 table is 60*120 inchs?

because my 9ft pool table has inside of 100*50, which is more like 8.5ft, a tad less even

just wondering im trying to see if both of my tables can fit in the same room or if the pool tables getting disassembled and put in storage when I get my chevillotte
 
shayne87 said:
56" x 112"
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and then say roughly maximum 7 or so inchs per side for the rails?

im sure it varies about an inch or 2 per table, cant imagine too much more than that

my gc has 7inchs from the front of the cushion to the outside of the table
 
The nominal size of an American table is given by something like:

"10-foot table"
10 feet = 120 inches
5 foot width = 60 inches
60 inches of green width=
4 inches of rail cloth (two inches on each side)
+56 inches of playing surface width(nose-to-nose)
playing length = 56*2 = 112 inches = 9 feet and 4 inches

That means that a "10-foot-table" is only a nose-to-nose length of 9' 4 ".

Similarly a "9-foot table" goes like:
4.5 feet = 54 inches, throw away 4 inches for the green cushions for 50 inches of playing width. The length is twice the width, for a 100" x 50" table.

On a "4.5 x 9" pool table the maximum travel along the length of the table is further reduced by the diameter of the ball, which is about 2 inches, so you end up with an actual playing area that is only 98 inches long. That is only 8' 2 inches. The playable width is only 48 inches or 4 feet and no inches. I'd call that closer to a 4x8 table. Note that the playable width and the playable length are not in a 2:1 ratio.

The manufacturer determines the rail width (wood part) independently from the playing dimensions.
 
Table sizes

10' ( 5 x 10) 56" x 112" 36 to 38mm rail height
9" (4 1/2 x 9 ) 50" x 100" 36 to 38mm rail height
Korean 48 1/2" x 97" 38mm to 40mm rail height

Half size or 1/4 size comes from Soren Sogaard site, I don't know the reason why.
Maybe they just name them that way.

You can play 61.5mm balls on Korean tables, but you can't play 65.5mm balls on a table with rail height lower than 37mm. Ball will hop out sometime.
 
Question: how many inches of cloth do I need to recover a 10ft Chevillotte? A 10ft Verhoeven? I've heard this numbers are different, is that true? Yura, I'm sure you can answer this... I'd really appreciate it.
 
Cutting cloth

I usually cut 120" for Chevillotte, Gabriels and Soren Sogaard and 116" for Verhoeven. Because of the slate sizes are different.
 
Cutting cloth

No. rails cut from side. Usually you need 66" width to cover bed. So if you buy Simonis, that's 78" width, you can have two long rail cloth on the side. Then you need two short rail cloth, 6" wide and 60" long.
 
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