changing tips

vLude99

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ok, I'm tired of the local guys changing my tips and not doing a good job. I want to start doing my own tips. I know I need tools but I'm confused as to which one works better. There are so many on the market. Which tools do you guys use?

are there any tutorials on changing tips?
 
vLude99 said:
ok, I'm tired of the local guys changing my tips and not doing a good job. I want to start doing my own tips. I know I need tools but I'm confused as to which one works better. There are so many on the market. Which tools do you guys use?

are there any tutorials on changing tips?

Of course, the best tool for installing a new tip is to use a lathe.

But, you can purchase a set of joint pins and use a drill and sandpaper to help even the tip with edge of the ferrule. The only problem I have enountered with this method is you must be careful when installing a layered tip has it is easy to get a tip to hot. Getting it too hot can cause the layers to seperate in a short amount of time.

I used to do my own tips but got tired of using this method and just get a buddy who has a lathe to install them for me. Until I get a lathe of my own I will not be putting tips on for myself.


Hope this helps!!!


Gary
 
I wish I could afford a lathe but my budget doesnt allow it. :( are there any cheaper alternatives?

I was also thinking of making my own lathe but I don't have much time for that anyways
 
vLude99 said:
ok, I'm tired of the local guys changing my tips and not doing a good job. I want to start doing my own tips. I know I need tools but I'm confused as to which one works better. There are so many on the market. Which tools do you guys use?

are there any tutorials on changing tips?

This is one of the best threads on the subject. I use a similar process but with different tools.
But the concept is the same no matter what tools you choose to use.
Its not hard at all. Just takes alot of patience and attention to detail. Just practice on a cheap shaft til you get the hang of it. Good luck.


http://forums.azbilliards.com//showthread.php?t=51018
 
Please forgive the ignorant question...

I know NOTHING about installing tips, so I am curious how the lathe is used...

Do you use it to square the end of the ferrule?
Do you use it to ensure the radius of the glued tip is symmetrical?
Both?
Something else?
 
Generally, the hardest process to master without a lathe is reducing the tip diameter flush to the ferrule without damaging the ferrule. Here's a method to try if you have an electric drill available: I have two sanding discs that chuck in my drill, one with 100 grit and one with 320. I wrap the ferrule with one layer of automotive pinstripe tape(about.010 thick) and one layer of masking tape in a contrasting color before gluing the tip. Once the glue is set, I clamp my drill to the workbench and lock the trigger on. Rotate the ferrule against the 100 grit disc, keeping it perpendicular to the sanding disc until you're just about thru the masking tape. Remove the masking tape, and switch to the 320 disc. Repeat the procedure, removing just enough leather until you can start to see the white of the ferrule through the striping tape. Then clamp the shaft horizontally to a workbench between some soft rubber vise jaws. Cut some 1/2 inch wide strips of 600, 1500 and 2500 wet-or-dry sandpaper. Wet the 600, drape it over the tip, and pull it back and forth shoeshine-style. Rotate 1/4 turn and repeat just until the tape has been sanded away at the tip/ferrule seam. Remove what's left of the tape, and repeat the procedure with 1500 and 2500 to polish the tip and ferrule. Finally, turn the paper over and burnish with the backside of the paper with the same procedure until everything's dry. After a little practice, you'll have a smooth, shiny tip that is perfectly flush with the ferrule, as well as a polished ferrule. I defy anyone to tell one of my tip jobs apart from a lathe-trimmed tip. It took longer to type this than it normally takes me to do a tip. Maybe when my kids come home from college later this month I get their webcam and do a video. Another benefit of this method is that you'll never delaminate a tip from trimming.
Bill
 
billyjack said:
Generally, the hardest process to master without a lathe is reducing the tip diameter flush to the ferrule without damaging the ferrule. Here's a method to try if you have an electric drill available: I have two sanding discs that chuck in my drill, one with 100 grit and one with 320. I wrap the ferrule with one layer of automotive pinstripe tape(about.010 thick) and one layer of masking tape in a contrasting color before gluing the tip. Once the glue is set, I clamp my drill to the workbench and lock the trigger on. Rotate the ferrule against the 100 grit disc, keeping it perpendicular to the sanding disc until you're just about thru the masking tape. Remove the masking tape, and switch to the 320 disc. Repeat the procedure, removing just enough leather until you can start to see the white of the ferrule through the striping tape. Then clamp the shaft horizontally to a workbench between some soft rubber vise jaws. Cut some 1/2 inch wide strips of 600, 1500 and 2500 wet-or-dry sandpaper. Wet the 600, drape it over the tip, and pull it back and forth shoeshine-style. Rotate 1/4 turn and repeat just until the tape has been sanded away at the tip/ferrule seam. Remove what's left of the tape, and repeat the procedure with 1500 and 2500 to polish the tip and ferrule. Finally, turn the paper over and burnish with the backside of the paper with the same procedure until everything's dry. After a little practice, you'll have a smooth, shiny tip that is perfectly flush with the ferrule, as well as a polished ferrule. I defy anyone to tell one of my tip jobs apart from a lathe-trimmed tip. It took longer to type this than it normally takes me to do a tip. Maybe when my kids come home from college later this month I get their webcam and do a video. Another benefit of this method is that you'll never delaminate a tip from trimming.
Bill

Sounds like a easy way to install a tip. How do you face off the surface that the tip glues to? What glue do you use?

Thanks for sharing.
 
After I cut the old tip off, I carefully shave most of the old leather off with a razor blade, then a couple swipes with a "Rapid Cue top Sander" as shown in the link in post #6. The V-blocks that clamp the shaft can damage your shaft, however. Mine got a layer of thin rubber installed before its first job on any surface that touches the shaft. You don't need to turn the disc in complete revolutions. Just work it back and forth in a short arc. I use primarily Gorilla Glue for all my tips, including White Diamonds, because it's never failed me, but it takes 4-6 hours for a full cure. If I need a tip in a hurry, it's Loctite Professional superglue. Next time I need glue, I'll try the new 2-hour Gorilla Glue.

Bill
 
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