Chris Byrne Davis conversion

[cuesblues]

Dude

Man that is one good lookin dude!

I couldn't tell if it was you or Dale in that pic

 

[hangemhigh]

Cues constructed from DAVIS blanks will be worth they're weight in gold, sooner than later!!!

What would you estimate the total production of blanks are at this time? Will his cues ultimately hold more value than a converted blank?

 

[ribdoner]

What would you estimate the total production of blanks are at this time? Will his cues ultimately hold more value than a converted blank?

T,

Utilizing SWAG I'd estimate between 70 and 100 blanks have been sold/shipped.

I do think DAVIS cues will bring a premium.

 

[Chris Byrne]

Swag ?????

 

[ribdoner]

Swag ?????

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[Gwen's up]

Where are the real builders?

I was at Chris's shop last night, and got to see my conversion in the works.....a few more passes, and it will be ready for some paint...I decided on a white with blue spec wrap....I can't wait till this cue is finished.....what do you guys think???


I think it would be nice if guys who want to call themselves cue "builders" would actually build their own cues. I personally would not want to fix another guy's work or flaws. Most of the time the points on these blanks are uneven, the very tips of the points are missing and need to be filled or touched up...too much headache! If I were to put my name on something, it would be my own work. Somehow adding a buttcap and a few rings don't quite cut it for me.

It's just the principle of the thing to me. Not that the cues don't turn out alright most of the time, and exceptional some of the time. but come on guys, learn how to do your own points and veneers!

 

[Gwen's up]

?? How ??

Cues constructed from DAVIS blanks will be worth they're weight in gold, sooner than later!!!

How can that be? There are so many of them! Seems like EVERYONE has a _____/Davis conversion...Not even hard to get.

 

[hangemhigh]

I was at Chris's shop last night, and got to see my conversion in the works.....a few more passes, and it will be ready for some paint...I decided on a white with blue spec wrap....I can't wait till this cue is finished.....what do you guys think???


I think it would be nice if guys who want to call themselves cue "builders" would actually build their own cues. I personally would not want to fix another guy's work or flaws. Most of the time the points on these blanks are uneven, the very tips of the points are missing and need to be filled or touched up...too much headache! If I were to put my name on something, it would be my own work. Somehow adding a buttcap and a few rings don't quite cut it for me.

It's just the principle of the thing to me. Not that the cues don't turn out alright most of the time, and exceptional some of the time. but come on guys, learn how to do your own points and veneers!

Yeah. Stay away from them. You don't need the headache. Leave them alone and do your own.

 

[paulybatz]

Ok

I hate to flame, but you know...all of those Spain blank bushkas are crap, worthless

 

[hangemhigh]

I hate to flame, but you know...all of those Spain blank bushkas are crap, worthless

I believe someone is crap, worthless.

 

[snowmon34]

Chris Byrne is a cue builder

I was at Chris's shop last night, and got to see my conversion in the works.....a few more passes, and it will be ready for some paint...I decided on a white with blue spec wrap....I can't wait till this cue is finished.....what do you guys think???


I think it would be nice if guys who want to call themselves cue "builders" would actually build their own cues. I personally would not want to fix another guy's work or flaws. Most of the time the points on these blanks are uneven, the very tips of the points are missing and need to be filled or touched up...too much headache! If I were to put my name on something, it would be my own work. Somehow adding a buttcap and a few rings don't quite cut it for me.

It's just the principle of the thing to me. Not that the cues don't turn out alright most of the time, and exceptional some of the time. but come on guys, learn how to do your own points and veneers!

Like the title says....Mr Chris Byrne is a fine cue builder. Chris is not known for conversions, or component assembly (not that there is anything wrong with that type of building imo). I consider Chris a good friend, and he took this project on as a favor..There are many mighty fine "cue builders" that have done conversions past and present.....I don't think it's fair to label one as a cue builder or non cue builder just because he may do a few conversions imo...Here are some fine examples of Chris's work....enjoy

 

[Gwen's up]

Like the title says....Mr Chris Byrne is a fine cue builder. Chris is not known for conversions, or component assembly (not that there is anything wrong with that type of building imo). I consider Chris a good friend, and he took this project on as a favor..There are many mighty fine "cue builders" that have done conversions past and present.....I don't think it's fair to label one as a cue builder or non cue builder just because he may do a few conversions imo...










Now that's what I'm talking about! Why bother with a dime-a-dozen conversion when you are capable of bigger and better things!!??

 

[hangemhigh]

Like the title says....Mr Chris Byrne is a fine cue builder. Chris is not known for conversions, or component assembly (not that there is anything wrong with that type of building imo). I consider Chris a good friend, and he took this project on as a favor..There are many mighty fine "cue builders" that have done conversions past and present.....I don't think it's fair to label one as a cue builder or non cue builder just because he may do a few conversions imo...










Now that's what I'm talking about! Why bother with a dime-a-dozen conversion when you are capable of bigger and better things!!??

Your just dead set on flaming this thread. I am proud of the restraint shown so far by the members here concerning your obvious attempts to denegrate the work shown here.

 

[ribdoner]

GU,

Some folks like full splice butts.

I'll give you a quarter for a dozen conversions. As an experienced cue dealer/broker/maker/pimp I'm sure you'll jump on a 150% ROI.

PM when your ready to ship.

Thanks in advance, Adam

 

[Chris Byrne]

I was at Chris's shop last night, and got to see my conversion in the works.....a few more passes, and it will be ready for some paint...I decided on a white with blue spec wrap....I can't wait till this cue is finished.....what do you guys think???


I think it would be nice if guys who want to call themselves cue "builders" would actually build their own cues. I personally would not want to fix another guy's work or flaws. Most of the time the points on these blanks are uneven, the very tips of the points are missing and need to be filled or touched up...too much headache! If I were to put my name on something, it would be my own work. Somehow adding a buttcap and a few rings don't quite cut it for me.

It's just the principle of the thing to me. Not that the cues don't turn out alright most of the time, and exceptional some of the time. but come on guys, learn how to do your own points and veneers!

Just so you know, I do not normaly use other peoples blanks to make my cues. Dale is a friend and a long time customer of mine. I have 3 of the davis blanks in my shop now that are all from the same batch. I did not buy them, they were brought to my by customers who wanted them completed. I prefer to make my own parts so I can controll the quality from start to finish.
The pictures Dale posted above are what I normally build. I do all my own point and veneer work. I do agree that a cuemaker should be able to make their own parts. If they can't then they are cue customizers. I personally try to just look at the quality of the work people do and look for the progression of their talent. If a guy normaly builds merry widow cues and gets a wild hair for a full splice cue I would not look down on him for buying a blank. If that same guy started pumping out fullsplices as his own work but they were not, that is another story. Chris.
Here are a few pics of the above cues when finished.

 

[Gwen's up]

uh--no

Your just dead set on flaming this thread. I am proud of the restraint shown so far by the members here concerning your obvious attempts to denegrate the work shown here.

I am not set on "flaming" this thread. This is not an attack on Chris Byrne, or his work.

I saw that over 1000 people looked at this cue and was expecting to see an outstanding piece of craftsmanship.

Once I got into the thread and saw the cue, I was interested in what folks were saying and can't quite understand all the rage...(hype).

IMO, Even the greatest builders can make poor decisions while designing. It is not the cue everyone is saying it is. The ringwork is odd. Who puts a ring in the middle of the butt? Poor attempt at a Hoppe ring?? or ??
It has nothing to it that makes it stand out from the rest of the Davis Conversions that any other builder is completing.

Look at the Davis cues that numerous other builders are finishing. Some of them are very outstanding but those builders don't get half of the credit that this is getting.

Maybe a new thread should have been started for expressing this point but this cue just happened to be exactly what I have been frustrated by.

This forum seems to be a big popularity contest, not a true judge of talent or workmanship.

AGAIN, not to bash Chris Byrne or Davis Blanks independently. I'm sure he is a fine builder. Davis sells a gazillion blanks. So be it.

Absolutely no disrespect was intended against Chris. I would rather see a talented builder do his own work thats all.

* Why does Davis not finish his own stuff and sell it for a mint if it is supposed to be so valuable??

 

[cuesblues]

Ebony Davis blank

A few more pics of some Byrne conversions.....

The ebony blank is mine. I haven't decided on a wrap, or completed the inlay design yet. Anybody got any ideas?

 

[Gwen's up]

Nice

Chris,

I do love your Ebony/turq. veneer cue. Very much my flavor!

I can see that you do fine work. One cue will never please everyone. And I can appreciate your point about doing a full splice once in awhile and buying a blank.



I do apologize for coming on harshly. I've just seen it so much and this was the straw that broke my camel's back. Unfortunately, often times the tone of a conversation in this manner, without being able to see one's facial expressions or the tone of a voice can be mistaken for rudeness and taken in an unacceptable direction. Sometimes genuine questions seem harsh or negative. My intent was not an attack.


In closing...
I would blame the antagonistic streak on reading Wheat's threads but I don't want to get under anyone else's skin...

 

[Chris Byrne]

LOL no offense taken. Check your pm's

 

[snowmon34]

Gwen's up in post #36 you quoted me.....fyi that is not my quote....that quote belongs to hangemhigh .....he replied in post #33