This is true of the 16 ball CG machine that I just bought. Has anyone come up with a way to make the balls rotate on multiple axes? On my old bucket polisher, if I make a bump in the carpet lining the bucket it will disrupt the one-axis spin and make the balls rotate differently. Thoughts?
Clean Gleem Polisher Review from an owner...
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I solved that problem way back in 1995 when I invented the King Cobra Double platter ball polisher. Today, that is better known as the Diamond Ball Polishers, the single and double platter machines.
Could you kindly share the detailed intellectual property of how this is accomplished so that others can benefit for free? Thanks in advance!!
First, the Diamond is a great machine and IS designed to rotate the balls. Still, the Clean Gleem design gets this feed back often, and it is not really particularly justified. I have had mine for nearly 3 years and use it constantly. I use the Aramith / Alcohol mixture in a quality atomizing spray bottle as so many others here recommend. I run the machine for about 5 minutes or a little less. The results are great. I also have found that the more the machine is used the better it cleans. Perhaps the result of a little cleaner build up on the strips in the openings? Not sure. One day, I will replace those strips if they become too dirty and we will see, but it definitely seems to clean better as time goes by.
THESE photos are with NO cleaner applied. Just a dry erase marker on the balls and a 5 minute run. They are clean on all sides. The vibration of the machine moves the balls around in the chamber and cleans all parts well by using the cleaning strip around the chamber in addition to the rollers.
I have put VERY FILTHY sets that were used for months on end into the machine with a ten minute run and a couple of spritzes of cleaner along the way in addition to at the beginning and they came out well. That said, they STILL needed some hand cleaning. I do not think ANY cleaning machine would have done significantly better.
All of these machines are designed (Just my opinion) to MAINTAIN balls in great condition. They clean well, but they are not designed to restore a set that has not been cleaned in months of pool hall use to be as good as new. They clean by rolling, not by scrubbing. I clean and rotate the set on my table weekly and play a couple of hours a day and this machine brings them out as good as freshly new out of the box as is possible.
I hope this is helpful to you. Maybe your set is more dirty than these machines are capable of cleaning with no help, and also, perhaps you are using a different cleaning mixture?
Generally, I am very pleased with this machine. I have no relationship to the company or the designer. I am just a customer.
THESE photos are with NO cleaner applied. Just a dry erase marker on the balls and a 5 minute run. They are clean on all sides. The vibration of the machine moves the balls around in the chamber and cleans all parts well by using the cleaning strip around the chamber in addition to the rollers.
I have put VERY FILTHY sets that were used for months on end into the machine with a ten minute run and a couple of spritzes of cleaner along the way in addition to at the beginning and they came out well. That said, they STILL needed some hand cleaning. I do not think ANY cleaning machine would have done significantly better.
All of these machines are designed (Just my opinion) to MAINTAIN balls in great condition. They clean well, but they are not designed to restore a set that has not been cleaned in months of pool hall use to be as good as new. They clean by rolling, not by scrubbing. I clean and rotate the set on my table weekly and play a couple of hours a day and this machine brings them out as good as freshly new out of the box as is possible.
I hope this is helpful to you. Maybe your set is more dirty than these machines are capable of cleaning with no help, and also, perhaps you are using a different cleaning mixture?
Generally, I am very pleased with this machine. I have no relationship to the company or the designer. I am just a customer.
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sure thing, will get right on that. Everyone should have everything for free, then, who needs money!!!Thanks so much for that very detailed and thoughtful response! I will give it some time, my new machine does not rotate the balls yet, I will work with it. I was using an older set of centenials, not terrible for sure, but dull. Prior to getting this machine, I was using a bucket polisher.
I don't think your Clean Gleam will ever spiral the balls. All surfaces get cleaned by contacting the rollers and the individual walls of the ball slots.
At first glance, one would think my old Bludworth does not rotate the balls.
If you watch for a little while you will see the stripes on the ball oscillate from fat to thin as the balls' axis of rotation changes slightly.
Since the actual polishing is done by the pads surrounding the balls, the entire ball gets cleaned.
If this wasn't the case, one could run the cycle twice, since as the machine slows the balls tend to hop around like they're in a popcorn popper prior to coming to rest.
If you watch for a little while you will see the stripes on the ball oscillate from fat to thin as the balls' axis of rotation changes slightly.
Since the actual polishing is done by the pads surrounding the balls, the entire ball gets cleaned.
If this wasn't the case, one could run the cycle twice, since as the machine slows the balls tend to hop around like they're in a popcorn popper prior to coming to rest.
I have not tried it yet, but your post started my mind thinking. I am going to Home Depot or similar and maybe get some of the smallest rubber, stick on, bumpers that go on kitchen cabinet doors. Maybe even but them in half and may have to shave them down, but I am going to put one tiny bumper UNDER one of the cleaning strips around the chamber in the position where the ball will be "rolling into it". This MAY be just enough to cause the ball to rotate more. This is on my to do list for this weekend. I will let you know how it goes.
i tried something similar on a bucket polisher years ago. I put some foam dimples under the cleaning pad of the buffer. It didn't yield the desired results and I scrapped the project after several positioning attempts.
I think the polishing pockets on the Clean Gleem need to be loose fitting to the balls. If there is too much contact, the ball could get traction and spit out.
Great point. I was thinking just a TINY little bump on one side toward the front. I TOTALLY agree, my fear is balls jumping out. Still, probably give it a try this weekend just to see if I CAN get a mandatory rotation. That said, It's really just for curiosity. I am really pleased with the machine over all. Only thing I would ever trade it for is YOURS!
Hahaha! Thanks, man!Great point. I was thinking just a TINY little bump on one side toward the front. I TOTALLY agree, my fear is balls jumping out. Still, probably give it a try this weekend just to see if I CAN get a mandatory rotation. That said, It's really just for curiosity. I am really pleased with the machine over all. Only thing I would ever trade it for is YOURS!