Cocobolo Fancy Sneaky 10/06

[sliprock]

SLIPROCK, I understand you know the work that goes in it. So do I. But did you start off selling your sneakies for 400? since that should be the law. I'm not trying to be rude, but be honest. Everyone has to start somewhere. And with all these new guys coming on the scene making cues it's hard to get that kind of money for a sneaky. FWIW That's just my opinion.

Tony

I understand your point completely,and I was being sarcastic when I said that cue prices should be law. I've never sold a sneaky for 400 and I might never get $400 for one. In my area of the country, Tim Scruugs and Richard Harris would starve trying to sell sneakies for $400. My point was, with all the commercial cues out there, a custom cue should bring as much or more than any mass produced cue as long as the quality is there. I just hate to see some of these guys(myself included) work hard at their cues and then have to settle for import cue prices. This guy built what appears to be a quailty piece and I don't think that $400 is out of line. He might never get it but, good for him for seeing and being proud of the quality of his work.

 

[Mystick Cue Fan]

I don't think that $400 is out of line. He might never get it but, good for him for seeing and being proud of the quality of his work.

I completely agree with this statement. I don't think 400 is out of line either. It looks like a very nice cue that a player would love to own. But Jesse if you read this.....(which I know you will) I was just giving ideas on how to get your cues out there. Without having to give them away to good players.

Tony

 

[SnakePool]

I appreciate everyone's input, that's why I posted pics and to show off.

So let's see... $250 for this sneaky and let's say you buy the OB-1 (which I do pay for) which is $200, How is it that $400 is asking too much? Maybe my math went backasswards in 3rd grade.

But you know what, that's OK I didn't put this thread up to start any wars, even though it is amusing. This is only my 3rd cue and all three are next to perfect. Like I said it's only a hobby. If I never sell a single cue at least my guests will have a quality cue to shoot with when they come over...lol

 

[Mystick Cue Fan]

I appreciate everyone's input, that's why I posted pics and to show off.

So let's see... $250 for this sneaky and let's say you buy the OB-1 (which I do pay for) which is $200, How is it that $400 is asking too much? Maybe my math went backasswards in 3rd grade.

But you know what, that's OK I didn't put this thread up to start any wars, even though it is amusing. This is only my 3rd cue and all three are next to perfect. Like I said it's only a hobby. If I never sell a single cue at least my guests will have a quality cue to shoot with when they come over...lol

Ok, I'm not arguing with the justification of your price. Look at my above statement. I don't think 400 is out of line at all. I wasn't trying to be amusing saying you cue is worth 250. As sliprock said, he can ask 400 and he might not get it but he can ask for it. That is the most true statement in this thread. OH and I am aware of the costs of making this cue as I have also stated before. I think you make a mighty fine cue. I'll just leave it at that. If you can't understand what I'm saying than there is no point in me stressing it. Good luck to you and your (what looks really bright) cue building future.

Tony

 

[01rkclassic]

I . In my area of the country, Tim Scruugs and Richard Harris would starve trying to sell sneakies for $400.



richard lives in wilmington oh.,about 30min. from ky and i can assure you he dosn't starve selling sneakies for $400,he won't even take an order now for any cue!

 

[cubswin]

I appreciate everyone's input, that's why I posted pics and to show off.

So let's see... $250 for this sneaky and let's say you buy the OB-1 (which I do pay for) which is $200, How is it that $400 is asking too much? Maybe my math went backasswards in 3rd grade.

But you know what, that's OK I didn't put this thread up to start any wars, even though it is amusing. This is only my 3rd cue and all three are next to perfect. Like I said it's only a hobby. If I never sell a single cue at least my guests will have a quality cue to shoot with when they come over...lol

I think your price is fair, though I wouldn't get one because of the shaft. Its a nice looking cue, and with that shaft 400 is certainly a fair price. 300 is fair with a regular old maple shaft imho. As the builder of the cue, you have the right to set the price as you wish. Either you'll sell them or you won't, and since that isn't your priority it shouldn't matter. Looks like your trying to build the best cue you can, and that should be what matters. Assume you got into building cue's because you were curious if you could, and you believe you can build a better mouse trap. That should be what matters, and if you are building a better mouse trap you most certainly will find a market.

 

[roddyc]

I think your price is fair, though I wouldn't get one because of the shaft. Its a nice looking cue, and with that shaft 400 is certainly a fair price. 300 is fair with a regular old maple shaft imho. As the builder of the cue, you have the right to set the price as you wish. Either you'll sell them or you won't, and since that isn't your priority it shouldn't matter. Looks like your trying to build the best cue you can, and that should be what matters. Assume you got into building cue's because you were curious if you could, and you believe you can build a better mouse trap. That should be what matters, and if you are building a better mouse trap you most certainly will find a market.

Tap, tap.

I've seen this cue in person and it is virtually flawless; all the points line up evenly, the finish is glossy and even, and not a glue line or sanding mark to be found. I actually saw it first in the spray booth while it was still bare and was impressed with it then. Jesse turns out a great product and if I was in the market for a new cue, I wouldn't have any trouble paying $400 for something of this quality. He might not have the name recogition of a Scruggs or Frey, but his product, at least in this instance, is at the very least comprable to any of the big names.

 

[krbsailing]

Nice Work!

Hey Jes, very nice work! Can you tell me a little more about the white plastic you used and what type of black material was used for the joints and ringwork too. Love to learn how to make that stitching in the ringwork....looks cool

 

[bruin70]

cosmetically, i don't like the look of the shaft. i never played with that shaft type, however i don't think the tradeoff is worth it. imo, no shaft is so much better than others that i'd sacrafice it's looks. that ferrule(or lack of it) just plain looks weird, and the lack of a standard ferrule leaves the shaft looking unfinished. amongst other reasons, a ferrule is a nice touche,,,a nice finishing touch that hilites the end of the shaft.

I have seen some big name sneakys going for over 250 but the points aren't even in the slightest and they don't have any ringwork to brag about. I'm not building these cues for the money but I'm not going to sell them CHEAP just to sell them. Not one person has made a negative comment about the price, most say "that's it." You have to see the cue up close, it is next flawless and of professional quality. Pretty good considering I learned to operate a lthe March of this year. I know your just busting my balls and playing devil's advocate, but this a hobby, maybe 1 every other month or so and not to anyone's specs.

the biggest mistake you can make is justifying your price with other established "big names". they sell what they sell at the price they sell because they've earned it. i see this mistake over and over again, where newbie artists make quality comparisons and think they've earned entitlement to equal pricing. i'm a little perplexed that you even bother to make such comparisons when this is just a hobby to you. this is not ball busting or playing devil's advocate so don't take this the wrong way because i'm not trying to be harsh. if you're doing this for the pure love of it then i commend you. ultimately, you will probably make the best cue you can make with that mindset....but as re: above, you're straddling that line where you're placing a value on your work when you've made it clear it's just a hobby.

my suggestion is that you don't even think about what the value of your work is or how it compares to others, and simply concentrate on perfecting your craft....you'll be happier. leave the money worries to the professionals who've decided to make this their livelihood.

 

[SnakePool]

The white is just a Cream colored pvc I believe. The black is Phenolic and the stitch is micarta(?) in old natural phenolic. I think it is micarta not sure though.

 

[Varney Cues]

that ferrule just plain looks weird

I'll post pics in a day or two of a cue I have here I'm finishing. It has the OB-1 shaft...but I replaced the ferrule with Saber T, complete with Sniper. It looks good...plays even better.

 

[hotcues]

sent a pm to you.