Comparing past and present greats

I don't think it is up to us regular folks to decide who was/is the best player. I think the players should decide who is the best. Ask them and most would say Efren. Why because Efren is the one they fear the most. I know who the best players are at my local poolhall because I have played them different games, I have gambled with them and played them in tournaments. Who is better at determining the best player at my pool hall, me, or someone who saw that so and so won x amount of tournaments.
 
hummmmm

the tables back then were bigger (5x10).....more room to move around. the balls were clay........and guess what.....they don't skid.
i had a talk with grady about this subject once. we BOTH believed the players of nowadays are better......

my 2 cents........

chris
 
Canteverwin, get your supercousin to teach you how to quote a person for fuck sakes.
 
I have a great idea, lets get some old men and ask them who they think play better, the players from the past or present. Most of them say present, including Grady Mathews. He has seen both, have any of you? At least I get my assumptions based on the opinions of people who have seen both worlds, most of you just speculate.
 
Before it gets completely misunderstood. I do not have a 11 year old cousin that would be considered a genius. Most of my cousin's are actually not very bright. I said a specific person, but I meant any average kid. Not a genius. All of us for that matter would have more knowledge than the past "Genius."

Mike
 
CantEverWin said:
Before it gets completely misunderstood. I do not have a 11 year old cousin that would be considered a genius. Most of my cousin's are actually not very bright. I said a specific person, but I meant any average kid. Not a genius. All of us for that matter would have more knowledge than the past "Genius."

Mike

the thread is already way off topic,,,,

from pool playing past and present, to information available to an 11 year old versus what einstien knew.
 
bruin70 said:
the thread is already way off topic,,,,

from pool playing past and present, to information available to an 11 year old versus what einstien knew.


This is true, and not what I meant to happen. Just another example in life.

It's okay thought, It's rare for a thread to ever stay on topic from what I have seen...

Mike
 
Misc thoughts ...

For arguments sake -

Wouldn't be great if we could take actual statistices
of old poolplayers and todays and feed them all into a computer, then have
computer matches between the Greats of Yester year with todays players,
like they did with boxing. I think that would be really interesting...

and one of my offbeat hobbies is Quantum Mechanics. Are you telling me
that your 3 year old grandson will know more about it when he is 11 than
I do ..... that's a good one ..lol

First, the academic world is slow, slow, and slow.
By the time a new subject gets put into the educational system, it
is outdated. (and that even applies for most colleges).
Second, most students do not apply themselves for learning how to learn,
they simply memorize facts and figures, and then report them on tests.
Third, Original thoughts out of anyone are far and few anymore.
Fourth, Most people learn more useful knowledge in Technical Schools, than
they ever learned in High School or College. (and my personal experience with that bears that out - I had 2 college degrees, and went to a technical school after college and 1 year of graduate school to crosstrain into computers).
Fifth, Most people do not really know what they want until they get out working for awhile, and find out what they 'don't' want to do, either by working in a college chosen field and finding out it is not like they thought,
or working at menial type jobs.
Sixth, Even if they happen to find what they are really interested in, they are hindered from progressing optimally by the normal 'rank and file' corporate
structures that exist in our country.
Seventh, Corporations pick executives not by their intelligence, but rather by
what fits with the corporation and its image.

I could go on, but I am sure you get the idea.
 
CantEverWin said:
This is true, and not what I meant to happen. Just another example in life.

It's okay thought, It's rare for a thread to ever stay on topic from what I have seen...

Mike

i like it when threads meander, but it's not even in the same ballpark anymore.
 
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