Conflict Over Concession of Game

DeadStick said:
Maybe because “there you go” means “I screwed up, now it’s your turn” to most everyone? I’ve never run into anyone who considers it a concession, and I’d never take it that way.
Click to expand...
Not that it needs to be beaten over anyone's head in here, but I take it as an assumption on their part that it's a certainty I will win the rack from that point. Think context of game play is the unknown variable here. Lets just assume that I know the situations I lived through better than anyone in this forum. ;)
DeadStick said:
I think Chris is talking about approaching the table in a deliberate move to concede, either ending in a handshake or starting to rack. That’s the style of concession I see most commonly in casual money games.
Click to expand...
When does the line get crossed from simply moving forward to what appears as a deliberate move for concession...? I suppose one needs to stop the act of shooting and wait to see if the hand starts coming out...?

In my experience there's an older generation of players that hover around the table during opponent play. ...and I don't doubt they're completely naive to how their actions can be perceived as either unsportsmanlike or a possible concession. My point is, you need to judge your audience..., so to speak. I have had league players break their cues apart during matches and I don't claim victory. I simply point out to them what that would normally signify and ask if that's their intention.

I know there's a breed player that will jump at the opportunity to get a free shot, game, set or whatever based on perception of concession. I'm not judging, I'm just saying that far more often or not these situations can be learning experiences for the uninitiated. So I default to that rather taking the advantage.
 
dendweller said:
It's funny, some times I look at the shot and think, is he giving me this. Sometimes when I concede they actually say, you sure? Once you done it, you've done it, it's over.
Click to expand...
Yup, several times I've been playing in a game where we both are giving up the 9 ball just as a friendly courtesy. Every once in while I walk up to the table to give up the 9 when I notice the 9 is way harder than it looked from my chair. Too late, ya gotta give it to him once you've made that move / motion.
 
easy-e said:
My practice partner and I play $50 sets of 10-ball. He's about 90 fargo points above me and I maybe win maybe 1/6 of our sets. I'm more or less "donating" to play better under the heat, and it's definitely helping. I can afford it and he will always help me understand some of the decisions I made and where I can play better. When we play, there is never a need for a verbal concession. If he makes the 9 and the cue ball is tracking for shape, he'll put his cue down and just start racking. I like it that way. We give ourselves the money ball if it's a gimme. I know it's not for everyone, but I will never gamble with someone that I don't trust.
Click to expand...
In a tournament or money match, I don’t like it when an opponent assumes he’ll have a relatively easy 9 ball shot conceded to him. For myself, even if I’m playing a skilled opponent who also concedes easy 9 balls, I’m still concentrating and focusing 100% on preparing to shoot that 9 ball shot until I hear or see otherwise. I never assume anything.
 
Bob Jewett said:
In a tournament, I was on the nine ball -- a medium-hard cut along the foot rail. My opponent stepped forward, picked up the triangle, and stood there waiting for me to shoot. In his mind, somehow, he was not conceding.
Click to expand...
That certainly constitutes a concession and you should have called it on him, otherwise, how will he ever learn that’s not appropriate behavior?
 
it may be a concession in your room or tournament. and i agree it sure looks like one.

but not for sure in every place. so what is the big deal to ask are you conceding?

if he doesnt say it or move the balls i am not doing anything that will make me lose the game. but i dont do that anyway till its totally over
unless its a player that i have an understanding with.

and what is all this sharking crap. people do all sorts of things that arent sharking. just things they do when competing. like saying something, . or moving around , unscrewing their stick thinking they lost, grabbing the rack. get over it and learn to play not bitch.
 
maha said:
it may be a concession in your room or tournament. and i agree it sure looks like one.

but not for sure in every place. so what is the big deal to ask are you conceding?

if he doesnt say it or move the balls i am not doing anything that will make me lose the game. but i dont do that anyway till its totally over
unless its a player that i have an understanding with.

and what is all this sharking crap. people do all sorts of things that arent sharking. just things they do when competing. like saying something, . or moving around , unscrewing their stick thinking they lost, grabbing the rack. get over it and learn to play not bitch.
Click to expand...
gee, didn't notice anyone bitching
 
The_JV said:
Yep I've gotten that one.... How about "There you go"
Click to expand...
"There you go" said to me is a concession, I'm involved in the game I am playing, I don't sit in my chair during a match and play on my phone, I don't wear earbuds so I can listen to music, I don't need my opponent to tell me its my turn to shoot, therefor he is conceding.
 
ShootingArts said:
The mighty 305 scrambler was a motocross machine once! Hate to hear about the boulders, I think all of us that have ridden offroad can tell similar tales. A snowmobiler has us all beaten though. He blasted over a crest to discover there was nothing on the other side! He fell hundreds of feet, twelve hundred comes to mind. I have found steel cables stretched across the trail and a few things. Not that I did much riding, I was into other things like pool and race cars when my brothers were riding.

Hu
Click to expand...
I had a fellow rider along with me then who carried a Polaroid camera. He snapped me 8 ft. in the air jumping a hill. When I showed the pic to an Army doctor I was friendly with who routinely had to evaluate soldier injuries, his comment: “Line of duty..NO”.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back
Top