Confusion about stroke

superminsoo

superminsoo

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Hi. There are a couple questions I just couldnt figure out.

What are the difference between pocket players' strokes and 3-cushion players' strokes? I've noticed that pocket players' stances are very low and their shooting elbow is way above their shoulders. How does that stroke differ to the ones that cushion players have with their slightly higher stances and more level strokes? I understand the need to sight the cue like a rifle so to speak but pocket players' cue seem to be hitting down on the shot.

Also, is it correct to flex muscles to keep the elbow and shoulder in place and? I find myself flexing my lats and triceps while stroking and was wondering if i picked up a bad habit. Flexing my lats seem to keep my shoulder in place while flexing my tricep keeps my elbow steady. Maybe flexing isnt the word im looking for, tensing slightly?

Thanks in advance.
 
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Since the bicep is the muscle that is moving your arm forward during the actual forward stroke, I prefer the tricep to be as relaxed as possible. The last thing I want is any additional tension in my stroke arm.

Use the tricep to pull your forearm for the backstroke, allow it a second to relax, and then let the bicep pull your forearm forward.

Steve
 
It doesn't matter whether you stand high or low, the pendulum swing is the same. You don't "hold" the shoulder, or tense any muscles. It is a relaxed, natural swing, from the elbow down. The cue should be held, where your hand falls naturally under your elbow (when the tip is touching the CB).

Scott Lee
www.poolknowledge.com
 
Ohhh

I see! I never thought about how the biceps move the stroke foward. It makes sense!

So as long as the the wrist falls under the elbow at the point of contact, it doesnt matter whether the stroke arm is at 90 degrees or whatever degree.

After following both advice, i feel more relaxed and fluid, like i should. But i still find myself tensing up a bit to keep the elbow in place. If i dont, my elbow starts going all over the place. How am i suppose to keep the elbow still throughout the whole stroke without tensing up?

Thank you for helping me and your patience.
 
Next time you do some solo practice, try practicing pulling the cue back slooooooooooowly on your back stroke all the while focus on keeping your upper arm still. Then gradually speed it up to a regular pace. It's easier to focus on these little mechanical issues if you break the motion down.
 
superminsoo...You don't have to "hold the elbow still". The elbow is a hinge. It only opens and closes one way.. in a straight line. The only way your cue cannot move in a straight line, with a pendulum swing, is to overflex your bicep (on the forward stroke), or grip too tight. Keep a loose bicep, and a loose grip, and you'll be fine. You're trying too hard.

Scott Lee
www.poolknowledge.com

superminsoo said:
I see! I never thought about how the biceps move the stroke foward. It makes sense!

So as long as the the wrist falls under the elbow at the point of contact, it doesnt matter whether the stroke arm is at 90 degrees or whatever degree.

After following both advice, i feel more relaxed and fluid, like i should. But i still find myself tensing up a bit to keep the elbow in place. If i dont, my elbow starts going all over the place. How am i suppose to keep the elbow still throughout the whole stroke without tensing up?

Thank you for helping me and your patience.
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I guess i am over thinking this. Thank you for the helpful advice. The only thing left for me is to practice practice practice and practice some more.

THANK YOU
 
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