Congratulations to another SPF Student
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Okay, okay, let's get this thread back on track and back on the players. I'd also like to give a hearty congratulations to Brandon Ryan who also placed 5th.. in the Black Tier!!!
http://www.poolplayers.com/nsc/2009nsc/stats/black0002.HTM
Brandon is my teammate on my BCA team. (And on my team, don't tell him I said this... he's the #4 shooter!!). I'd love to sit here and say I taught him everything he knows, but alas, he already had a game when he hopped on our team.
Fred <~~~ has some good teammates
Pat (and Mike and Joey), what you view as friendly, free, open, etc., others (including me) have viewed (in the past) Dr. Dave as overly aggressive, self-serving, self-promoting. He's certainly toned it down, but let's not make it sound like he hasn't been guilty himself. And, let's not make it sound like he didn't have a book to sell.
Similar to the tone of many of the SPF instructor posts, there's chafe. The information from Dr. Dave and the SPF instructors is mostly excellent. I think both the SPF instructors and the Dr. Dave (and a lot of other self-promoting, but well-intentioned posters) would do well to listen to the posters "complaints." And, I think they have listened. Certainly Dr. Dave has.
Fred
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I don't remember hearing about his book. I'm not questioning what you say, but the fact I don't know about it must say something about the level and frequency of Dave's self-promotion vs. others'.
I agree, but there's a real difference in their "signal to noise" ratios.
pj
chgo
While Dr. Dave and I aren't best buds (We've never met nor share a drink or a meal), I can say that I remember more about what he offers in free instruction on the Main Forum than I do about any book OR DVD that he might offer.
It's common knowledge that you can view almost everything on his website FREE OF CHARGE.
Add in the fact that he posts all of those videos of unique shots and situations that he and Bob Jewett film and contribute to the Main Forum FREE OF CHARGE as well as him answering every question with good effort and you have a person who MINIMIZES any mention of his product or services and MAXIMIZES the instructional information available FREE OF CHARGE.
Is his website for ordering DVD's or books:
http://dr-dave-billiards.com/ ?
or the incredible volumes of free INSTRUCTIONAL INFORMATION: http://billiards.colostate.edu/
lol
If I'm not mistaken he seldom tells you where you can go to buy his stuff and normally refers Main Forum members to his website where you can view his high quality instructional information for free.
JoeyA (didn't mean for this to turn into an advertisement for Dr. Dave) really.........but at least it's not HIM hawking his wares non-stop in the Main Forum.
Back on target with the intent of this thread -- to congratulate students' success
Folks:
Great idea on Fred's (CornerMan's) part -- congratulating students who put into practice what they learned and reaped the rewards/benefits.
I'd like to congratulate Easton, CT's own Douglas Moe, a skill level "4" in the APA, who has taken 5th place in the Yellow Tier of the APA Nationals:
http://poolplayers.com/nsc/2009nsc/stats/yellow0001.HTM
Doug is not an SPF student, but rather took lessons from the famous Bob Begey, a.k.a. "Bristol Bob". (Those that recall the name "Bristol Bob" know him as Kid Delicious' road partner, as told in the fanciful book, "Running the Table: The Legend of Kid Delicious, the Last Great American Pool Hustler.") Doug's application of the information he learned has gained him the ability to consistently win APA Regionals (singles boards) and thus a ticket to Vegas to compete in the APA Nationals. This year, he placed 5th in the APA Nationals -- getting stronger each year!
Congratulations Doug!
-Sean
Folks:
Great idea on Fred's (CornerMan's) part -- congratulating students who put into practice what they learned and reaped the rewards/benefits.
I'd like to congratulate Easton, CT's own Douglas Moe, a skill level "4" in the APA, who has taken 5th place in the Yellow Tier of the APA Nationals:
http://poolplayers.com/nsc/2009nsc/stats/yellow0001.HTM
Doug is not an SPF student, but rather took lessons from the famous Bob Begey, a.k.a. "Bristol Bob". (Those that recall the name "Bristol Bob" know him as Kid Delicious' road partner, as told in the fanciful book, "Running the Table: The Legend of Kid Delicious, the Last Great American Pool Hustler.") Doug's application of the information he learned has gained him the ability to consistently win APA Regionals (singles boards) and thus a ticket to Vegas to compete in the APA Nationals. This year, he placed 5th in the APA Nationals -- getting stronger each year!
Congratulations Doug!
-Sean
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First, let me again apologize for using Dr. Dave as the example because at this point it's unfair since he's a bit of an innocent bystander in all this.
That being said, when someone said in an earlier post that they are surprised you didn't mention Dr. Dave, well... now you know why. I think you would have said the same thing as you are suggesting now... that the self promoting tone can often be a turn off to the good content. I had several online discussions with Dr. Dave on this very subject, and people ragged on me and the other "detractors" for taking him to task. Today, I think his posts are what they are partially due to those early "negative" posts.
So, you get to reap the rewards of Dr. Dave's more .... streamlined posts.
But, to everyone else, we are all mostly adult here. Everyone can say whatever they want, however they want. But similarly, anyone has the right to take those posts to task. And moderators have the power to moderate.
Fred
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They're both his. And I encourage everyone to take a look at all of the information he offers.
Fred
Well certainly everybody here should buy
"The Illustrated Principles of Pool and Billiards" (Sterling, 2004)
by David G. Alciatore
But that's not really the point here...
...
Come to think of it
I don't remember what IS the point.
The point was whether the water ever reached your house and how it affected you. And then, the point was that we're waiting for the grand opening.
Fred <~~~ and everyone should think about SPF lessons and buying Dave's book
I dunno. Dr. Dave's info always Sounds Pretty Funky to me.
p.s. My unpaid ad is right below the signature line.
Roger
I dunno. Dr. Dave's info always Sounds Pretty Funky to me.
p.s. My unpaid ad is right below the signature line.
Roger
Roger,
I have never seen your signature line or website http://www.maestrosproshop.com/
I see that you offer many different and valuable pool tips on a variety of subjects, FREE on your website.
I'll look around a bit more at the cues and other areas of your website when I have more time.
thanks,
JoeyA
So does high speed reading.
Hey, guys, don't take me serious. I'm just having a little fun on a slow Thursday morning. I'm not trying to cut down Dr. Dave or anyone else, I just saw an opportunity to play on some words with the "Sounds Pretty Funky" thing.
As for the signature line, yes, that is free advertising, graciously permitted by the forum administrators here. I humbly thank them for that, and promise them that I will try to keep all comments that could be regarded as solicitations for business out of my regular posts.
Roger
Can't we all just get along?
Greetings everyone!
I'm Rob Reeves, and I'd like to start by saying MUCHAS GRACIAS!!! (I'm pretty sure that's Spanish for "you're very good-looking") for all the kudos over my strong performance in Vegas last week. For the record, I also managed to do ok on the blackjack tables (not losing everything is winning there, right?).
I would especially like to acknowledge and thank Randy, Scott and Rufus for their instruction and support. I've always enjoyed playing pool, but I love it all the more now that someone finally showed me how to hit the damn ball straight. Seriously, my stroke was a mess, and they showed me how to fix it, as well as how to self-diagnose whenever it gets out of line again. Yes, that's right, I'm promoting SPF. So there.
That said, please let this thread die. Everyone has made their points. All that's left is bickering and getting all snarky with each other (I never miss an opportunity to use the word "snarky"). Posting on forums is much like driving on the highway. People find it so easy to honk their horns and yell out the window when they're not face-to-face with a driver who offended them in some way. If they were to meet in person, it's more likely they would exchange excuse-me's in a civil manner, and perhaps even buy each other a drink.
Cheers!
-Rob
Greetings everyone!
I'm Rob Reeves, and I'd like to start by saying MUCHAS GRACIAS!!! (I'm pretty sure that's Spanish for "you're very good-looking") for all the kudos over my strong performance in Vegas last week. For the record, I also managed to do ok on the blackjack tables (not losing everything is winning there, right?).
I would especially like to acknowledge and thank Randy, Scott and Rufus for their instruction and support. I've always enjoyed playing pool, but I love it all the more now that someone finally showed me how to hit the damn ball straight. Seriously, my stroke was a mess, and they showed me how to fix it, as well as how to self-diagnose whenever it gets out of line again. Yes, that's right, I'm promoting SPF. So there.
That said, please let this thread die. Everyone has made their points. All that's left is bickering and getting all snarky with each other (I never miss an opportunity to use the word "snarky"). Posting on forums is much like driving on the highway. People find it so easy to honk their horns and yell out the window when they're not face-to-face with a driver who offended them in some way. If they were to meet in person, it's more likely they would exchange excuse-me's in a civil manner, and perhaps even buy each other a drink.
Cheers!
-Rob