Consciously or Subconsciously?

Calling all pro's....calling all pro's...will all of the pro's on the Ask the pro's section please report to the regular forum. Sarah, Melissa, Johnny, Jennifer, Keith, and all the rest. What in the hell are you thinking about while you're playing and shooting?
 
drivermaker said:
Calling all pro's....calling all pro's...will all of the pro's on the Ask the pro's section please report to the regular forum. Sarah, Melissa, Johnny, Jennifer, Keith, and all the rest. What in the hell are you thinking about while you're playing and shooting?

Pro's are practicing right now, leave them alone... ;)
 
Curious George ...

Zims Rack said:
I've found that switch that shuts deadstroke on/off!

You started a very good thread here Zim. But I'm curious, and wondering if you're going to tell us where you found the switch, or just tease us and all the Buddists ?

Dave (George is my middle name:)
 
JPB said:
After all the inner game zen psych stuff I have read about pool and golf and other things, and a dose of philosophy and epistemolgy, I don't think we really know. I think the "conscious/subconscious" split is a false one. The essence of human existence is that we are beings of volitional consciousness. That said, not all of our mental functions take place in linguistic centers in our brain. Language is the way our logical minds apply reason, which is the hallmark of the human, but our minds are multi faceted and process information quickly in ways that don't use language or an easily apparent language based logical sequence. I think when people talk about the subconscious they are talking about cognitive centers that aren't language oriented. So they see and process patterns in their mind quickly with no apparent effort. However, it is just your conscious mind working in a different way I think. My ideas on this are still developing and I don't know for sure. I am comfortable in saying that you play both "consciously" and "subconsciously". It is impossible to do anything without consciousness. What consciousness means is a long involved debate in itsellf. Anyway, there is no real mind/body split IMO, and no real conscious/subconscious split IMO. We play with our minds and should get comfortable in a rational, conscious mind that can apprecite its non linguistic "automatic" aspects. I used to think zen ideas would help, but I don't think so any more. Don't trust anything that wants to empty your mind or shut it off. Learn control, or ceding control from one aspect of your mind to another, but don't distrust your mind or consciousness. To do so is to try to deny your existence. Now if I could really do this or formulate a coherent theory about this, I might be able to run 4 whole balls. ;)

I agree that the term sub-conscious thinking is misleading. I would prefer the term feel, though this term too is inadequate to describe the complexity of the mind.

Memory is very much involved in making a shot. The senses collect data of ball positions and lines. Memory is accessed by determining a goal to feel the way the shot should be applied. Memory is a kind of automated process in the mind. It is not the same as a process of pointing the cue along a line which points at the aim point which is calculated by observation alone.

Playing by feel means that you aim where it feels right, and swing according to what feels right. This I believe is the most effective way to play.

But in planning shot selection an active thought processmust occur which is quiet different.

The person that has written in most detail on this subject of the mind is Harold Percival. A small sample of his voluminous investigations and theory of the mind can be read here:
http://www.word-foundation.com/tnd/CHAPTER VIIsection3.htm
 
the body needs a few milli-seconds to translate your planned shot and mental imagery to the right side of the brain and back to the body's muscle memory to assist in the shot. the "switch " (or whatever trick or phrase you may be using) may be allowing this mind/body communication the time for it to take place.

my body has been so abused over the years, i don't think it always understands.
 
There are 4 levels of profiency with any skill. They are:

1. Unconsciously Incompetent. You don't know that your unskilled.

2. Consciously incompetent. You know that you are unskilled

3. Consciously Competent. You are skilled, but have to think about the actions.

4. Unconsciously Competent. Your in the zone., no thinking necessary.



I wish I was the last 100% of the time.
 
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