Contact point

.1 mm for say, a spot shot? Just guessing, but it's surely minute. And of course it's a different size for different shots. Heck, it's probably well over an inch for a hanger.
 
tom mcgonagle said:
I'm talking about, Ball to Ball!
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Depends on the speed, Tom. We're using plastic balls these days, so the harder you hit, the larger the contact point (due to compression and snap-back). A piece of carbon paper placed between the two balls proves this -- the harder you hit, the larger the carbon mark on the ball.

Now, where do I pick up my $1.00 off coupon for a Subway sandwich? :D

-Sean
 
I don't know exactly but it's bigger than most players believe on a lot of shots. Johnnyt
 
It depends on the speed of the hit, elasticity, relative size, and roundness of the balls. But if I had to make a wild guess, I'd say less than 3 square millimeters (in a round shape).
 
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The "POINT", I was trying to make here is that the area is very small. Of course when the object ball is very close to the pocket you have a greater area on the object-ball that can be hit and still pocket the ball.

What you should do is put two balls together, I recomend lighter colored balls, one, three or five, and look at the point in the light. Roll the balls around each other and see that the area never changes. It's still small. Exact measurement, I really don't know.

All I know is the farther away from the pocket the object ball is, the more precise you have to be on your shots. EXAMPLE: IF YOU START A SPACESHIP OUT TO GO TO THE MOON AND IT"S ONE MILLIONTH OF ONE DEGREE OFF COURSE, THEY MIGHT END UP ON JUPITOR.

When you miss the same shots the same way you might want to take this into consideration. The adjustment to make that particular shot is going to be a very small area.

As far as the balls compressing, I have a hard time believing this happens. The ball would be rolling like it had a flat tire. Believe what you want to believe. That's just my theory.


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Tom.

2.5-3mm.

Not mutch to aim at or to miss by. You are right on.....randyg
 
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i paid for that knowlage and it help me game immensly just looking at it from that perspective

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tom mcgonagle said:
The "POINT", I was trying to make here is that the area is very small. Of course when the object ball is very close to the pocket you have a greater area on the object-ball that can be hit and still pocket the ball.

What you should do is put two balls together, I recomend lighter colored balls, one, three or five, and look at the point in the light. Roll the balls around each other and see that the area never changes. It's still small. Exact measurement, I really don't know.

All I know is the farther away from the pocket the object ball is, the more precise you have to be on your shots. EXAMPLE: IF YOU START A SPACESHIP OUT TO GO TO THE MOON AND IT"S ONE MILLIONTH OF ONE DEGREE OFF COURSE, THEY MIGHT END UP ON JUPITOR.

When you miss the same shots the same way you might want to take this into consideration. The adjustment to make that particular shot is going to be a very small area.

As far as the balls compressing, I have a hard time believing this happens. The ball would be rolling like it had a flat tire. Believe what you want to believe. That's just my theory.


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http://tommcgonaglerightoncue.com
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Sorry FASTEDDIE427, I know you paid for this information. Next time you come I'll give you a discount on your lesson. I just get tired of reading the same old stuff on here.

I'd like to see everyone's game improve and if I can do a little to help, I will.


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sfleinen said:
Depends on the speed, Tom. We're using plastic balls these days, so the harder you hit, the larger the contact point (due to compression and snap-back). A piece of carbon paper placed between the two balls proves this -- the harder you hit, the larger the carbon mark on the ball.

Now, where do I pick up my $1.00 off coupon for a Subway sandwich? :D

-Sean
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Wher do I get Carbon Paper???

I'd say its smaller than I can see. Even with my glasses on.
 
Tom, I am just messing with ya. One of these days I gotta make my way back there between work lack of funds, or just exaustion in general, tough trip to take.

Best wishes
Fast eddie


P.S. But Right on cue. Its a great read and an absolute page turner

Un putdownable


tom mcgonagle said:
Sorry FASTEDDIE427, I know you paid for this information. Next time you come I'll give you a discount on your lesson. I just get tired of reading the same old stuff on here.

I'd like to see everyone's game improve and if I can do a little to help, I will.


_________________________________________

http://tommcgonaglerightoncue.com
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tom mcgonagle said:
Without looking, what is the actual size of the contact point?
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With a hard tip; it ranges from not quite 1mm through a little more than 5mm from the lightest stroke tip inpact with the CB to the heaviest. This covers an energy transfer over 25X:1 (lightest to heaviest).

Softer tips will have bigger contact points, harde (still) tips will have smaller poinits of contact.

Contact between the CB and OB, assuming a new set of arimith balls, is on the order of but smaller than 1 thousandth of a sq inch and 1 hundredth of a sq inch on the high side.
 
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