Controllable Eye Dominance
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What you are seeing here is an example of how to get your body lined up with the shot line.
The table is 4.5 x 9.0. I'm 6'2 and standing about a foot away from the other end of the table. Approx. 7' away from the 3 ball which is on a straight black line to the rail.
With both eyes open position your body as you normally would to line up the middle of the 3 ball with the line.
Like you were getting ready to shoot the 3 head on.
Now, if you are lined up seeing the 3 ball on the straight line. You should be able to close either eye and the 3 ball and line will not move.
While still standing move your head and body from side to side. You will notice, depending which way you move your head, that the 3 ball leaves the straight line.
This is your vision center for your body for a straight in shot. When you rotate the upper part of your body and bend down to shoot the shot, your strongest eye will lead the cue to the shot line. Let the cue fall on the shot line naturally, do not force the cue on to the shot line.
First picture: Body too far to the left shown below.
Second picture: Body too far to the right
Third picture: Body positioned correctly.
Play with this, you may find something about your body and feet placement that you were not aware.
Have fun
John
The table is 4.5 x 9.0. I'm 6'2 and standing about a foot away from the other end of the table. Approx. 7' away from the 3 ball which is on a straight black line to the rail.
With both eyes open position your body as you normally would to line up the middle of the 3 ball with the line.
Like you were getting ready to shoot the 3 head on.
Now, if you are lined up seeing the 3 ball on the straight line. You should be able to close either eye and the 3 ball and line will not move.
While still standing move your head and body from side to side. You will notice, depending which way you move your head, that the 3 ball leaves the straight line.
This is your vision center for your body for a straight in shot. When you rotate the upper part of your body and bend down to shoot the shot, your strongest eye will lead the cue to the shot line. Let the cue fall on the shot line naturally, do not force the cue on to the shot line.
First picture: Body too far to the left shown below.
Second picture: Body too far to the right
Third picture: Body positioned correctly.
Play with this, you may find something about your body and feet placement that you were not aware.
Have fun
John
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When I stand on the line, with the center of my nose on the shot line, I see the 1st & 2nd picture. When I stand on the line, with my dominant eye on the line, I see the 3rd picture.
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John
the link no longer works????
Try this little experiment with this setup - or with any near and far objects that you can line up from above: with both eyes open, move your head left or tight until the two objects look lined up - this head position is your "vision center" (at least from that distance/height). Now close one eye and then the other - the near object will move to the left or right, probably one way more than the other.
When the near object is closest to straight, the eye that's open is your dominant eye, and how close to straight compared with the other eye is an indication of how dominant - and how much closer to that eye your cue should be.
pj
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Yeah, I see that. Man, should have downloaded it. The poster's YT account was terminated.
The name of the video was: Advanced Fundamentals by Rodney Morris. A great little video.
I see why now. It was part of a 3 DVD set.
http://www.amazon.com/Break-Run-Disc-Box-Instructional/dp/B006YUK3HU
I'll edit my post. Thanks
John
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In bold. If I read this right.
This would explain why my cue falls down between the bridge of my nose and right eye tear duct and not directly under the pupil of the right eye. I always wondered about that.
So, the greater the parallax error, the closer the cue will be more under the center of the dominant eye.
Good information. Thanks
John
You read me right - my experience is just about like yours (except the other eye). And I expect it works like that for most, but I don't know how universal it is.
pj
chgo
Neither object changes position for me.
I could be doing it wrong.
I used playing cards on my kitchen table.
The nearest card was about 1' from me, and the furthest, 5'-6'
I stood in a position that made both cards line up with each other. Then closed each eye separately. The position of the cards did appear to move slightly, but in unison, and each time they still seemed to line up with each other.
We all "see" an interpretation of what our eyes receive, so I'm not surprised that the same thing looks different to different people. What you describe sounds unusual to me (in my limited experience), but it could be an improvement on the norm.
pj
chgo
I shot for all my younger yrs chin on stick after a neck injury I had to raise my head
Did that for 20 yrs of playing on and off it wasn't till I took a lesson from Scott Lee and watched the video did I realize I was shooting off my left eye , he said I didn't matter because I was hitting the ball straight , however I had noticed over the yrs I was not making long cuts down the rail near as much as I was when I was younger , so I started practicing in front of the mirror getting my head back to the middle and I became much better at those shots
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I don't 'know'... but this sounds a bit similar to me in that I see 'better' with my left eye when up, but I had always played with a very low head & was using my right eye. I never really fine tuned the alignment when up but did so once I was down in the shooting position.
That has now changed as I am using my left eye when up AND once down.
I think it is a very interesting subject & I would guess that Gene has a rather large head start on studying it.
Best Wishes to All.
On cut shots to the left line up your body with the shot based on what your left eye is seeing. Shots to the right line up your body with what your right eye is seeing.
These movements are very small. Maybe an inch or less.
Try it.
John
These movements are very small. Maybe an inch or less.
Try it.
John
Proper eyesight is key to playing well at all times
I played pool in my 20's when my eyesight was 20-10. I play pool right-handed.
Now that I'm retired and took up pool seriously again, it took a year for me to become consistently accurate. First, I had to get those goofy single prescription billiard glasses to see the cue ball, object ball and pool table clearly. But my biggest problem was my ever changing eye dominance - one day it seemed that my left eye was dominant and I would adjust to that. But then the next day it was different - my right seemed to be dominant and then I'd have to adjust to that. Drove me crazy. I finally figured out a weird strategy that gives me accuracy and consistency every day, every time. Now, I get into my standup aiming pre-stance with my head tilted as it will be when down on my final stance... and with my right eye slightly squinted (which forces my left to be dominant. Then, as I go forward and down to my final stance, I release my right eye squint and then slightly squint my left eye (which forces the right eye to be the dominant eye). With this weird procedure, I'm able to accurately aim on the object ball and accurately see the cue ball (and know the exact English, if any, that is on the cue ball).
If anything - this convinces me that every person's situation is probably different and that aiming systems may or may not work for all individuals.
I played pool in my 20's when my eyesight was 20-10. I play pool right-handed.
Now that I'm retired and took up pool seriously again, it took a year for me to become consistently accurate. First, I had to get those goofy single prescription billiard glasses to see the cue ball, object ball and pool table clearly. But my biggest problem was my ever changing eye dominance - one day it seemed that my left eye was dominant and I would adjust to that. But then the next day it was different - my right seemed to be dominant and then I'd have to adjust to that. Drove me crazy. I finally figured out a weird strategy that gives me accuracy and consistency every day, every time. Now, I get into my standup aiming pre-stance with my head tilted as it will be when down on my final stance... and with my right eye slightly squinted (which forces my left to be dominant. Then, as I go forward and down to my final stance, I release my right eye squint and then slightly squint my left eye (which forces the right eye to be the dominant eye). With this weird procedure, I'm able to accurately aim on the object ball and accurately see the cue ball (and know the exact English, if any, that is on the cue ball).
If anything - this convinces me that every person's situation is probably different and that aiming systems may or may not work for all individuals.
Your welcome English......
I enjoyed working with you. Every single one of my sessions like we did is a winner because we are all the same.
It took me 5 years on the road and 2,000 personal lessons, including over 10,000 mini lessons to learn the secrets that these eyes hold in regards to a pool shot.
The players that have learned what I teach like yourself know that this is the answer.
The rest are all guessing in the dark. it's very simple but very hard to figure out unless you get the real scoop on how this works.
Like someone trying to build a bridge that never did it before. Complex but simple once you have it figured out. With these eyes a player just needs a push in the right direction.
This new video will be a big push for everyone.
I wish I could help here but the new video with the whole story will be out in about 2 to 3 months.
Good luck and shoot straight
I enjoyed working with you. Every single one of my sessions like we did is a winner because we are all the same.
It took me 5 years on the road and 2,000 personal lessons, including over 10,000 mini lessons to learn the secrets that these eyes hold in regards to a pool shot.
The players that have learned what I teach like yourself know that this is the answer.
The rest are all guessing in the dark. it's very simple but very hard to figure out unless you get the real scoop on how this works.
Like someone trying to build a bridge that never did it before. Complex but simple once you have it figured out. With these eyes a player just needs a push in the right direction.
This new video will be a big push for everyone.
I wish I could help here but the new video with the whole story will be out in about 2 to 3 months.
Good luck and shoot straight