Corey deuel new break

PracticeChampion said:
Reckon using a bridge will be outlawed soon? He almost purposely seeks ways to aggravate people LoL

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maybe. it's not what the bridge "is intended for", according to some vague rule wording.

but i don't think corey tries to aggravate people, and i don't think he is seeking attention or trying to be different either. usually when he does something like this it's perfectly rational to him and his game. he just wants to win.
 
If he wants attention he should try winning something that counts and not bar box stuff.
I think he shot his load. I don't see many trophys alongside The Genius OF Corey Deuel

He is always finding a way to lose no matter what tricks he comes up with.
Look at last week in the final against Morra. Corey couldn't close it out and John dug deep to win. I think his killer instinct is either gone or comes and goes too easily.

He such a great player that his talent alone gets him to the later rounds.
If he could keep it together it would be Shane /Corey, Corey/Shane.
I think he would have a few more major titles/ world titles.,,,,Time will tell.
 
I don't think that the use of the bridge alone makes this a new break. On the other hand, if using the bridge is allowing him to do things with the balls in the stack that can't be done without the bridge, it is a new break. The jury is out.
 
It just occurred to me that the bridge may allow him to position his body more advantageously and the cue sliding through the bridge is not the important part.
 
sjm said:
I don't think that the use of the bridge alone makes this a new break. On the other hand, if using the bridge is allowing him to do things with the balls in the stack that can't be done without the bridge, it is a new break. The jury is out.
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I suspect he is just going for consistency, and it's not a matter of different action. Corey's work on break shots is always about total, consistent control -- of a shot where nearly all players just smash and pray.
 
SmoothStroke said:
If he could keep it together it would be Shane /Corey, Corey/Shane. I think he would have a few more major titles/ world titles.,,,,Time will tell.
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Wow, you are one tough grader!

Corey Deuel has won the All-Japan Championship, the BCA Open Nine-ball, the Sands Regency Nine-ball, and the US Open Nine-ball Championship. In my books, those are all major championships and are some of the toughest events to win in our sport. He has won both the Derby City bank pool title and the Derby City one pocket title. Finally, he was also a Mosconi Cup MVP.

Corey's a hall of famer in my books and has a great resume of titles.
 
sjm said:
Wow, you are one tough grader!

Corey Deuel has won the All-Japan Championship, the BCA Open Nine-ball, the Sands Regency Nine-ball, and the US Open Nine-ball Championship. In my books, those are all major championships and are some of the toughest events to win in our sport. He has won both the Derby City bank pool title and the Derby City one pocket title. Finally, he was also a Mosconi Cup MVP.

Corey's a hall of famer in my books and has a great resume of titles.
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The fact that Rodney Morris is in the HOF,and Cory isn’t is criminal. But I have no doubt he will at some point.
 
8intheside said:
The fact that Rodney Morris is in the HOF,and Cory isn’t is criminal. But I have no doubt he will at some point.
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I'm guessing the next four men to be inducted will be Orcullo, Feijen, Van Boening and Deuel.

It's a little easier to see the future on the women's side. Ga Young Kim will be 39 in a couple of weeks, so she's not quite eligible, but she is one of the best woman players of all time, and she did a lot of her best work on American soil.
 
sjm said:
I'm guessing the next four men to be inducted will be Orcullo, Feijen, Van Boening and Deuel.

It's a little easier to see the future on the women's side. Ga Young Kim will be 39 in a couple of weeks, so she's not quite eligible, but she is one of the best woman players of all time, and she did a lot of her best work on American soil.
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What is the age requirement for men/women?
 
sjm said:
Wow, you are one tough grader!

Corey Deuel has won the All-Japan Championship, the BCA Open Nine-ball, the Sands Regency Nine-ball, and the US Open Nine-ball Championship. In my books, those are all major championships and are some of the toughest events to win in our sport. He has won both the Derby City bank pool title and the Derby City one pocket title. Finally, he was also a Mosconi Cup MVP.

Corey's a hall of famer in my books and has a great resume of titles.
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I could have worded my post differently, I am not knocking him.
I looked up Coreys titles and the years he won before I posted..

It's possible, he is so good, that he becomes bored very easily and has to push himself to gear up mentally. What was once natural is now a struggle.
It's not uncommon when someone is at that level to lose interest and passion, yet perform well at what they do. They just don't have that push they once did, sort of going through the motions. They have been there and done that attitude.

His ball striking, timing, and the cleanliness of his hit, along with his past history, says enough about his ability.
I think he should have more big wins and Major Titles, World Championships.
The world wide competition is tough. Corey is more than capable, if he wants it, no gimmicks, no genius moments with a bridge, just get in trench, bring your head, hunger, and drive.
You have to have the WANT TO.

I was in Norfolk for the 9 ball tourney. I watched and studied every player to a fault.
The player with the best timing on all the strokes ( Finesse,touch, midstroke and extreme power) was Filler, it's always filler. Albin and Dennis are always clean, but nobody has timing like Filler, even though Albin won. Corey is right up there in the timing department.

I'm extreme OCD, I just want to see what I believe people are capable of achieving, and perfection. You should see how I grade myself, I keep razor blades within reach.
Best: SS
 
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sjm said:
If memory serves, you must turn 41 in your year of induction.
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I wonder whether they actually have an age requirement now. The BCA website says: "The Greatest Player category shall be reserved for outstanding players who have been active in national or international competition for at least 20 years and have won at least one national or international championship."
 
AtLarge said:
I wonder whether they actually have an age requirement now. The BCA website says: "The Greatest Player category shall be reserved for outstanding players who have been active in national or international competition for at least 20 years and have won at least one national or international championship."
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The BCA no longer controls the Hall of Fame process and BCA members in general do not have a vote. The actual requirements are the responsibility of the USBMA which has a website at: https://www.usbma.com/index.html

Here are all the requirements for the "Greatest Player" category from what I believe to be the current requirements document:

A) Greatest Player
• Candidates must be at least 40 years old by Jan. 1 of the year of their induction.
• Candidates must have professional playing careers of at least 10 years. A “professional playing career” will have started with the player’s first entry in a professional tournament affiliated with a credible billiard association or promoter.
• Candidates must have recorded significant achievements in U.S.-based events.

The specific requirements are fairly light so the process depends on the judgement of the USBMA HOF Board. "Significant achievements" is the key.
 
SmoothStroke said:
I could have worded my post differently, I am not knocking him.
I looked up Coreys titles and the years he won before I posted..

It's possible, he is so good, that he becomes bored very easily and has to push himself to gear up mentally. What was once natural is now a struggle.
It's not uncommon when someone is at that level to lose interest and passion, yet perform well at what they do. They just don't have that push they once did, sort of going through the motions. They have been there and done that attitude.

His ball striking, timing, and the cleanliness of his hit, along with his past history, says enough about his ability.
I think he should have more big wins and Major Titles, World Championships.
The world wide competition is tough. Corey is more than capable, if he wants it, no gimmicks, no genius moments with a bridge, just get in trench, bring your head, hunger, and drive.
You have to have the WANT TO.

I was in Norfolk for the 9 ball tourney. I watched and studied every player to a fault.
The player with the best timing on all the strokes ( Finesse,touch, midstroke and extreme power) was Filler, it's always filler. Albin and Dennis are always clean, but nobody has timing like Filler, even though Albin won. Corey is right up there in the timing department.

I'm extreme OCD, I just want to see what I believe people are capable of achieving, and perfection. You should see how I grade myself, I keep razor blades within reach.
Best: SS
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Great post. Thanks for your insights.
 
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Bob Jewett said:
The BCA no longer controls the Hall of Fame process and BCA members in general do not have a vote. The actual requirements are the responsibility of the USBMA which has a website at: https://www.usbma.com/index.html

Here are all the requirements for the "Greatest Player" category from what I believe to be the current requirements document:

A) Greatest Player
• Candidates must be at least 40 years old by Jan. 1 of the year of their induction.
• Candidates must have professional playing careers of at least 10 years. A “professional playing career” will have started with the player’s first entry in a professional tournament affiliated with a credible billiard association or promoter.
• Candidates must have recorded significant achievements in U.S.-based events.

The specific requirements are fairly light so the process depends on the judgement of the USBMA HOF Board. "Significant achievements" is the key.
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Thanks, Bob, for posting this.
 
SmoothStroke said:
I could have worded my post differently, I am not knocking him.
I looked up Coreys titles and the years he won before I posted..

It's possible, he is so good, that he becomes bored very easily and has to push himself to gear up mentally. What was once natural is now a struggle.
It's not uncommon when someone is at that level to lose interest and passion, yet perform well at what they do. They just don't have that push they once did, sort of going through the motions. They have been there and done that attitude.

His ball striking, timing, and the cleanliness of his hit, along with his past history, says enough about his ability.
I think he should have more big wins and Major Titles, World Championships.
The world wide competition is tough. Corey is more than capable, if he wants it, no gimmicks, no genius moments with a bridge, just get in trench, bring your head, hunger, and drive.
You have to have the WANT TO.

I was in Norfolk for the 9 ball tourney. I watched and studied every player to a fault.
The player with the best timing on all the strokes ( Finesse,touch, midstroke and extreme power) was Filler, it's always filler. Albin and Dennis are always clean, but nobody has timing like Filler, even though Albin won. Corey is right up there in the timing department.

I'm extreme OCD, I just want to see what I believe people are capable of achieving, and perfection. You should see how I grade myself, I keep razor blades within reach.
Best: SS
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I think Corey is trying to improve his break in the most repeatable way (without breaking hard). Breaking rotation retirees many high level players that can no longer get the "pop" on their first shot.

I see this especially in ten ball. The young players are athletic and can produce an awesome break all day long. Not so much for the older guys.

I see Corey like Earl, two guys trying stuff to compete.
 
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