wayne said:
I don't know about Strickland, but Archer said if he won the lottery he would get his PGA card and turn golf pro. Now, winning, that's another deal there.
Cory Deuel
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I don't know about Strickland, but Archer said if he won the lottery he would get his PGA card and turn golf pro. Now, winning, that's another deal there.
drivermaker said:O.K. Jonesey, you've stretched the living hell out of this...Let me see if I can take your thinking and do some creative stretching myself. "Usually great pool players can use their god given talents and play golf, bowling, baseball, ball-room dancing, and be a politician as well."
In bowling you have to have mental toughness to get through all of the brackets to the finals; you must take the proper stance on a variety of lanes; you grip on the ball must be just right, you have to be well balanced with your weight, you definitely have to have hand eye coordination, and you hit the pins with a variety of spins. In addition to that, you're aiming for a pocket just like you do in pool; the surface where your ball rolls is hard and smooth; and you play caroms, kisses, and combinations into the pins. Plus, he can wear a half-fingered Earl Strickland glove autographed by Earl himself.
(Seems like he has a MUCH GREATER future in bowling and they earn more)
In baseball, while facing a Randy Johnson 100 mph pitch, you have to have mental toughness; your stance in the batter's box has to be just right; you must have good balance going into the ball; your hand-eye coordination really has to be superior; and you can put slice or hook spins on a baseball based on how you time it.
In competitive ball room dancing, you have to have mental toughness against all of those other competitor's and the judges; your stance has to be just right at various parts of the dance; you definitely need good balance or your partner will be on her lard bottom; and you have to spin her in different directions.
In potitics you have to have mental toughness against all of the smear campaigns, especially when they have a picture of you porkin' one of the help in the back of a car at 2:00 a.m. Your stance on all of the issues has to be strong; you need to have a grip on what the public really wants; you definitely need good weight control so you don't look like crap in those photo opp shoots; you need hand eye coordination in order that you don't dribble soup on your good tie and white shirt at a gala benefit drive; and you have to be on the ball to put various spins on anything that your opponent ever says that could look favorable to others.
The moral to the story is...if you play pool...you can do anything at a super high level.
Forget the golf and pool Drivemaker...I think you should have been a lawyer.
....Jonesy just doesn't have the energy, to go out on a tilt with the Drivemaker.
The Celebrity Players Tour would be a good place to start for professional pool players who wanna be professional golfers.
Win consistently there & then maybe try a mini-tour (Gateway, Hooters, Golden Bear.) Make that look easy & maybe it is time to pony up the $4,500 for PGA Q-school.
The Canadian PGA Tour isn't a bad place to hone the skills either.
If all else fails - try open monday qualifying or,
if ya really want to be in the golf profession.
Try & pass a PAT & go to work
Win consistently there & then maybe try a mini-tour (Gateway, Hooters, Golden Bear.) Make that look easy & maybe it is time to pony up the $4,500 for PGA Q-school.
The Canadian PGA Tour isn't a bad place to hone the skills either.
If all else fails - try open monday qualifying or,
if ya really want to be in the golf profession.
Try & pass a PAT & go to work
wayne said:
OK - here's my post dated check for 100 mil. The odds of it being good in 5 years are probably not quite as good as Corey's being on the PGA tour. I have a little inside information, however. I saw an accustats tape where Earl said he was giving Corey "a stroke every other hole". For all we know he's a 12 handicap and Earl's a 3.
On the other hand, there were probably a lot of people who told him he would never be a pro pool player too.
Chris
drivermaker
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Frank_Glenn said:
Just in case Johnny doesn't know, can you inform him of the requirements for participating on the PGA Tour? He could win a $300 million dollar lottery and it wouldn't buy a PGA card, or a way onto the tour, or ANY individual events.
The only way you get there is through a qualification process, that's it. You have to PLAY your way on. But with $300 million...why bother?
drivermaker
Banned
wayne said:
C'mon Wayne...we have to make it more realistic. You know that I don't have a $100 million so you know I would't be able to pay off. But, I will go for $100 thousand (I do have that), and I'll go 100 to 1 every year for the next 10 years. You send your $1,000 to me, which I'll hold in escrow till the end of the year, if Corey gets on the PGA Tour as a regular, you'll get $100,000. At the beginning of each year, you post another $1,000 and if he makes it by the end of that year, you'll get your $100k, and we'll do it over a 10 year period. After that it'll be a bad bet for you because he'll be too old and I wouldn't want to just take your money.
Whatta you say......
Frank_Glenn said:
That hardly seems like a pro, most pros depend upon their sport for a living not the lottery. I think he probably should have left off the "turn golf pro" part and instead said he'd "play golf fulltime".
If I win the lottery, I think I'll become a pool "pro", I hate golf.
Cory Deuel will not become a pro golfer anytime soon!! He needs to stick to what has gotten him this far in life and that is 9-ball! If Archer, Strickland, Varner or Sigel wanted to become professional golfers it is certainly understandable, they accomplished everything in the game of professional pool there is to accomplish and have played the game professionally for more than 15 years and have gotten sponsorship through out their careers. Cory Deuel only had 2 good years as a pro pool player (2001 & 2002) then dropped off the radar screen only to be seen in a few events. It takes big money and many years to become a professional golfer and I just do not see it happening. It is not to say that he cannot become a professional golfer, but please name one former professional pool player who gave up pool and now play pro golf?
drivermaker said:C'mon Wayne...we have to make it more realistic. You know that I don't have a $100 million so you know I would't be able to pay off. But, I will go for $100 thousand (I do have that), and I'll go 100 to 1 every year for the next 10 years. You send your $1,000 to me, which I'll hold in escrow till the end of the year, if Corey gets on the PGA Tour as a regular, you'll get $100,000. At the beginning of each year, you post another $1,000 and if he makes it by the end of that year, you'll get your $100k, and we'll do it over a 10 year period. After that it'll be a bad bet for you because he'll be too old and I wouldn't want to just take your money.
Man, what kind of hustler are you? You went from talking 1 million to one odds, I offer 100,000 to 1 to cut you some slack and you come back with 100 to 1 odds. I'll tell you what, I'll play you pool for the lousy $1,000 and you don't need to give me any odds.
Wayne
drivermaker
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wayne said:
I never talked about ANY odds. You came up with the 1 million to one. I'm still giving you 100-1. However, you were the naive hero/idol worshiper that was so sure that Corey, who is a young pool god, could carry something over into the world of golf to make him equally successful in no time flat, that I shouldn't give you ANY odds. Since you're that sure he's so good, we can go even on the bet. $1,000 minimum as I said. Quit your big mouth woofing about playing, you're a bag of wind there also to try to deflect the real issue. The issue is Corey making it on tour...yea or nay??!!
drivermaker said:
A few points to correct your stupid comments. 1. I have no hero/idol worship for Corey Duell. 2. I never said he was a good golfer, in fact I have no idea if he is or isn't. 3. I am not a bag of wind about playing you for $1000, if you think I am then we can post up with someone we trust on here and then make arrangements to play.
If you read my posts instead of making things up you would see I said "If Corey is around a scratch golfer (someone pointed out he is not close to this based on what Earl gives him) and with his natural abilities etc. he may be able to make it as a golfer also."
I also said "The odds are greatly against him..."
Wayne
drivermaker
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wayne said:
And Wayne says blah, blah, blah, and woof, woof, woof. And then he said blah, blah, blah, and woof, woof, woof. Here's what you said moron:
"I would NOT BET against Corey becoming a professional golfer". So what that means Wayniepoo, is, you'll bet that he WILL BECOME a professional golfer, or, you WON'T BET at all!
We can eliminate the "WON'T BET" at all aspect because YOU opened your big yapping mouth by saying, "What do you think the odds are? I guess a conservative estimate would be 100,000 to 1" and were ready to place your bet if I posted. (What a joke) You then extrapolated it out times $1,000 to be $100,000 million, all on your own since I never mentioned anything about odds. You made the whole f*#king thing up! I countered with 100-1 because I CAN afford to lose $100k and I have it. I don't even think you would know how to count to $1000 dollars based on your stupidity.
Then you went into weasel mode and want to play for it. LOL You're such a typical internet forum woofing loser! What an asshole! I have a better idea where you'll make more money. Since you WOULD NOT BET AGAINST Corey becoming a professional golfer, why don't you quit your job and go caddy for him, right now. It'll solidify your spot when he does make it big time in the pro ranks on the PGA Tour. There are a number of caddies on tour that are making well into the 6 figure category for lugging a bag around 10 months out of the year. Typically, they get 10% of their player's winnings, unless another type of deal is cut. Good luck..........
"OH OH, Recovery Jones couldn't take it no more and is now on a tilt!
Drivermaker, plain and simple....you're a jerk!!!
When someone says THEY WON'T BET AGAINST something, it doesn't mean that THEY WILL BET FOR SOMETHING.
EXAMPLE:
Someone comes up to Recovery Jones and says, "I'll bet you one day that Corey Deuel will be a pro golfer." Recovery Jones replies, "No thanks, I wouldn't bet against that."Does that show anywhere that RJ wants to make a bet, FOR IT? NO.Does that mean that RJ thinks for sure that Corey Deuel will be a pro golfer? NO.It just means that RJ thinks it could be possible(given the fact that Corey is a talented individual) even though at best, it's probably a long shot.
In your simplicity, you turn it into a flaming war( sarcastically flaming several people) and egotistically claiming that you are willing to put up $100,000. I say bull$hit. No-one will bet you and no-one believes it because it UNBELIEVABLE!!!
Wayne frustrated by your constant changing of numbers (and your mind) offers you a very BELIEVABLE (by everyone) $1000 pool game challenge and you JAM OUT!!Drivermaker either put up or shutup.Hell, I'll even play you a set for a hundred or two.
People mearly mention that there are some simuliarties between pool and golf and you turn it into a flaming war.I think the fact that Earl Strickland, Johhny Archer and Corey Deuel are all pretty good golfers kinda validates that some simularities JUST MIGHT BE possible.You have to carve everyone up because you disagree.No problem, disagree (it's your choice)....but there's no need to sarcastically put others down.It just shows me that you are kindergarden dropout, that lacks class. RJ
ps. Bottom line Drivermaker: Settle this thing on the table or shutup....plain and simple.
Drivermaker, plain and simple....you're a jerk!!!
When someone says THEY WON'T BET AGAINST something, it doesn't mean that THEY WILL BET FOR SOMETHING.
EXAMPLE:
Someone comes up to Recovery Jones and says, "I'll bet you one day that Corey Deuel will be a pro golfer." Recovery Jones replies, "No thanks, I wouldn't bet against that."Does that show anywhere that RJ wants to make a bet, FOR IT? NO.Does that mean that RJ thinks for sure that Corey Deuel will be a pro golfer? NO.It just means that RJ thinks it could be possible(given the fact that Corey is a talented individual) even though at best, it's probably a long shot.
In your simplicity, you turn it into a flaming war( sarcastically flaming several people) and egotistically claiming that you are willing to put up $100,000. I say bull$hit. No-one will bet you and no-one believes it because it UNBELIEVABLE!!!
Wayne frustrated by your constant changing of numbers (and your mind) offers you a very BELIEVABLE (by everyone) $1000 pool game challenge and you JAM OUT!!Drivermaker either put up or shutup.Hell, I'll even play you a set for a hundred or two.
People mearly mention that there are some simuliarties between pool and golf and you turn it into a flaming war.I think the fact that Earl Strickland, Johhny Archer and Corey Deuel are all pretty good golfers kinda validates that some simularities JUST MIGHT BE possible.You have to carve everyone up because you disagree.No problem, disagree (it's your choice)....but there's no need to sarcastically put others down.It just shows me that you are kindergarden dropout, that lacks class. RJ
ps. Bottom line Drivermaker: Settle this thing on the table or shutup....plain and simple.
drivermaker
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recoveryjones said:
Oh Boy...another internet woofer who wants to play for a whopping hundred or two a set. If you're going to be a woofer and big man on campus, you might as well play for more than that, big spender. I'm really starting to think that Wayne might be one of your aliases. So, I guess the two of you are going to do me in and that will be the end of me, huh? ROTFLMAO That's what makes these forums so much fun, numbskulls like you and Wayne that don't have the mental capacity to do a little verbal parrying with any degree of success, and you immediately want to turn into Billy The Kid and have a shootout on mainstreet at high noon. LOL "C'mon motherf*#ker, I'll kick your ass...we'll see how good you are...we'll settle this thing on the table." Oh yes Jonesy, you are a real classic moron.
O.K....Here's what you do. I have no intentions of coming to the mainland since I live in Hawaii and I see you live in Canada. So, we can just kill two birds with one stone. You & Wayne can book a flight to Honolulu airport IMMEDIATELY. Send me a PM with your date, arrival time, and airline. I'll have my driver meet you at the baggage location with a big sign that says
WAYNE - JONESY. Just look for the sign, he'll bring both of you back to where we'll play. But for Chrissake, can we play for a little more than a hundred or two a set. I think Wayne's whole life savings is the $1000 so that won't go too far. I'll expect you here no later than the end of next week.
Remember, just look for the sign............
Drivermaker, I personally think you are full of ca-ca. Here is what I'd bet on.
#1 - You do not live in Hawaii. I believe you've posted in the past that you are in coastal GA (which I also think is BS)
#2 - You'd crap your pants in excitement if you luck up and ran a two-pack
#3 - You are a typical poser, who's golf game is somewhere in the mid to high 80s.
#1 - You do not live in Hawaii. I believe you've posted in the past that you are in coastal GA (which I also think is BS)
#2 - You'd crap your pants in excitement if you luck up and ran a two-pack
#3 - You are a typical poser, who's golf game is somewhere in the mid to high 80s.
drivermaker
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BazookaJoe said:
You're exactly right...that's why my drawers are full of ca-ca...I lucked out and ran a two-pack the other night.
There are individuals here on this forum that do in fact know about my credentials as a pro golfer, you and most others are just at the bottom of the food chain and not privy to seeing or receiving any verification of that info. If they wanted to speak up on their own, that's up to them, but I really don't give a flying rat's ass one way or another because I don't have to prove or explain myself to anyone about my skills or status in golf, pool, or anything. Now, if I REALLY wanted to be cool like the other Billy The Kid's, I'd challenge you to a $1,000 Nassau on the golf course and woof it up real good and we could do that for 3-4 days on here. That would be some REAL fun, wouldn't it. I just don't know why, when it comes to this, that men who won't ever travel beyond their home town, suddenly get this false sense of testosterone filled male bravado when 3,000 miles or more may separate them and they want to have a go at it on the table for a couple of hundred bucks....like that's going to really prove something. First off, it ain't ever gonna happen, nobody's going to travel that far for such a puny amount of money. Secondly, for the guys offering the challenges...when your stupid rage gets the best of you, did you ever stop to think that the guy you're challenging really COULD stomp your ass there as well? There are a few guys on this forum that I would be really wary of playing for big stakes. But, they're NEVER in the group of dickheads that want to prove something with bullshit internet challenges.
And thirdly, I'd never want to play pool with someone for money that felt so much animosity toward me, or me toward them. That's just unhealthy and not worth the time.
Maybe the guy that wants to do the extreme fighting challenge might have something. Hell, why even waste time playing pool...just get into the cage.
Have a fight, a bitch slapping contest, a dick measuring contest, whatever it takes to get it over with as fast as possible so that you don't have to be around each other's sickening faces.
I haven't read every post on this thread, but here's some info...
I just talked to someone at CueStix International, Corey's main sponsor (former), and they are no longer sponsoring him, because he's pretty much given up playing pool, he's going for the PGA.
I know most of you already know this, but I just thought I'd pass on info from a reliable source.
Zim
I just talked to someone at CueStix International, Corey's main sponsor (former), and they are no longer sponsoring him, because he's pretty much given up playing pool, he's going for the PGA.
I know most of you already know this, but I just thought I'd pass on info from a reliable source.
Zim
drivermaker
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Zims Rack said:
Thanks for the great info Zim. No, I don't think ANYBODY knew this. He really has gone off the deep end. I think it's a shame and a waste of god given talent, but it's his life. I wish him the best.
However, for those that want to see egg on my face (or worse) if he makes it, I'll still take bets. Step up to the plate boys and let's negotiate something..............