Couldnt Make 5 In A Row

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DrCue'sProtege

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i set up this shot last night. was wanting to work on some straight in draw shots into the corner pocket, so i put the cue ball about 2-3 feet from the object ball, and the object ball about 2-3 feet from the corner pocket, straight in, about 12-18 inches out from the long rail. hope this gives you the proper visual.

i was going to shoot draw shots, and wanted to make 5 of these in a row. then i was going to shoot the same shot into the other corner pocket. well, it took me forever to accomplish this. once you miss, you have to start over. i was amazed i couldnt get this in the first or second try. i bet it took me at least 10 minutes to make 5 in a row into the first corner pocket, then 4-5 tries to make 5 in a row into the other corner pocket.

what does this tell you posters?
serious replies only please.

thanks,
DCP
 
I don't really understand what you were trying to do. Were you just trying to make the OB and draw back the CB? Or were you trying to make the OB and draw back the CB into the opposite pocket?
 
I would say ...

That your stroke was off because of improper form, and you either compensated
unconsciously for the improper form, or 'smoothed' out your stroke with
repetition.

You would be surprised how easy most shots are when you have the proper
form to execute them, or how hard they become when you DON'T have
the proper form.
 
i was trying to draw the ball back, anywhere from a few inches, to a few feet. i just couldnt seem to get set, get comfortable, over the shot most of the time.

about 3 different times i was down to the 5th ball, having made 4 in a row, and missed. finally, i did get them, of course.

and no, i dont think there was an "Absolute Pattern" to my misses. at least not from what i remember. i'll try this again tonight.

DCP
 
I'm not trying to make you feel bad or make fun of you, but my serious opinion is that's horrible. Maybe you're not following through on your drawshots or have some other stroke flaw?

DrCue'sProtege said:
i set up this shot last night. was wanting to work on some straight in draw shots into the corner pocket, so i put the cue ball about 2-3 feet from the object ball, and the object ball about 2-3 feet from the corner pocket, straight in, about 12-18 inches out from the long rail. hope this gives you the proper visual.

i was going to shoot draw shots, and wanted to make 5 of these in a row. then i was going to shoot the same shot into the other corner pocket. well, it took me forever to accomplish this. once you miss, you have to start over. i was amazed i couldnt get this in the first or second try. i bet it took me at least 10 minutes to make 5 in a row into the first corner pocket, then 4-5 tries to make 5 in a row into the other corner pocket.

what does this tell you posters?
serious replies only please.

thanks,
DCP
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DrCue'sProtege said:
what does this tell you posters?
serious replies only please.

thanks,
DCP
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you have a flaw in your stroke. thats basically it. if you cannot make a straight draw shot, then you have some side to side or up and down motion in your stroke.

best thing to do, is to shoot stop shots day and night until you are making them over 90 percent of the time. then you will have a straight stroke.

thanks

VAP
 
DrCue'sProtege said:
i set up this shot last night. was wanting to work on some straight in draw shots into the corner pocket, so i put the cue ball about 2-3 feet from the object ball, and the object ball about 2-3 feet from the corner pocket, straight in, about 12-18 inches out from the long rail. hope this gives you the proper visual.

i was going to shoot draw shots, and wanted to make 5 of these in a row. then i was going to shoot the same shot into the other corner pocket. well, it took me forever to accomplish this. once you miss, you have to start over. i was amazed i couldnt get this in the first or second try. i bet it took me at least 10 minutes to make 5 in a row into the first corner pocket, then 4-5 tries to make 5 in a row into the other corner pocket.

what does this tell you posters?
serious replies only please.

thanks,
DCP
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Just to be clear, you're not re-positioning the cue ball after each shot, right?

Either way, I agree with Snapshot9. Your stroke is probably a little off.
 
DrCue'sProtege said:
what does this tell you posters?
serious replies only please.

thanks,
DCP
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Your stroke is not straight and/or you're not hitting the cb where you think you are.

Someone posted this drill awhile back and I am forever grateful. Line up as many balls as you want along the diamond just above the footstring. Take ball in hand in the kitchen and line up EVERY SHOT CONSECUTIVELY DEAD STRAIGHT IN TO ONE OF THE CORNER POCKETS. It's a stroke straightener if you suck it up and continue to try. The original poster bet me that I couldn't make 12 in a row. I thought "Straight in? Ball in hand every time? No problem." WRONG. I do this drill almost every time I play now, and it alone has jumped my game up a notch.

http://onepocket.org/table/pooltable2.html

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%AU3D6%BU3M4%DU2R7%EU2H9%FU1Z4%GU2T7%HU3G1%IU3K0%JU2P8%KU0V7
%MU3O2%NU1X4%Ph3E3%WV8D8%Xg7E5%[D1C9%\T5D6
)END

When you can do that one, try this jacked up, stop the cb in the middle.

START(
%AV6_0%M\1P1%Ps1[1%W]2P8%Xr6Z8%[D1C9%\[4O7

)END

Once you can hit 'em DEAD STRAIGHT, I think then you can begin to learn how to hit 'em every other way.

I just know it helped me and I'm passing it along.
~DC
 
i agree, it was horrible. i was very surprised i couldnt make the 5 in a row. after i messed up a couple of times, then i started to "Press" a little bit, and i guess i just lost concentration.

dunno what the problem is. at times when i am over the ball i feel like i am not aligned properly. then there are times when i am over the ball that it looks to me like my aim is not good. so much of the time i have that "Uncomfortable Feeling" that something is wrong somewhere, that i am going to miss. then there are times when all cylinders click, and i pocket the object ball, and draw the cue ball straight back towards the tip.

guess i need to practice this. perhaps practicing a shot until you make it 5 or 10 times in a row is a good practice technique?

DCP
 
DCP,
I agree with VAP and Crawdaddio - you definitely have a stroke problem. I'm not sure if Crawdaddio was referring to my post regarding straight-in shots, but I shoot at least 60-70 a day, object ball at 3rd diamond, cue ball at 6th diamond on the headstring, all dead straight (except the follow shots which require a very slight angle to avoid scratching), ball in hand each shot (12 to slide cueball slightly forward after impact, 12 heavy draw 5 diamonds back to the short rail, 12 heavy follow to the short rail and 9 feet back to the other short rail, 12 extreme slow rollers). I do the first 12 until I make all 12 (including getting the cue ball to its target) without missing. I allow 2 misses for the other sets (pocket 12 with only 2 total misses). If you are working on a Wilson/Breisath stroke, this should be fairly easy to accomplish. If not, perhaps you should come up to Indy some weekend and we can play/practice/videotape.

If you line up 12 or 13 balls in such a fashion and propose that a good player pocket them all with no misses (or one miss if you are charitable), and that the cueball must follow forward within one or 2 ball widths of the object ball (or a whole foot if you are charitable) - no stop shots or drawing the ball - you will be SHOCKED at how few players can do this. It is VERY tricky when they get to the balls in the center of the table - these balls require some bridging off the rail, occasionally the cue ball will have to be frozen to the rail to obtain the required straight in position (and this requires a DiLiberto-esque extreme slow roller).

Unless a person has practiced this, it will be EXTREMELY difficult for them to complete your proposition. I've made a hundred or two dollars on this proposition, and have never had anyone complete it successfully - the really good players think it will be easy, but I've seen several world-beating 9-ballers fail. If you practice it, it becomes fairly easy, and will really help your play in all games. Just my 50th of a dollar.
 
I'd guess that you're elevating the butt of your cue too much -- combine that with a horizontally off-center hit and you'll accidentally masse the cue ball (and throw the object ball, too). Try shooting with a more level cue, no more than 10 degrees angle.

You may also want to work on your center ball hit: Using a stripe for a CB, put it on the head spot with the stripe oriented vertically. Aim directly at the center diamond on the foot rail (put a piece of chalk on the center diamond so you can see where you're aiming). Hit so that the CB goes over the footspot, hits the center of foot rail, and comes straight back. If you're hitting dead center on the CB, (1) the CB will come straight back, and (2) you'll be able to tell from the stripe that you're not putting any left or right on CB.

Another common source of randomness is dropping your shoulder when you shoot. Try to limit the motion of your arm to just the forearm.

Cory
 
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