If your thinking about buying a table now might be the time. I don't know if it's the economy or what but people are all but giving them away on craigslist. I'm thinking about upgrading the old namco table I have in the basement. I'm seeing brunswick and olhausen tables that are all but new with all the extra's selling for less then a grand. valley bar boxs that our going for 7 or 800 bucks.