CTE Aiming

Very basic answer to the OP
No, CTE doesn't say a 1/2 ball hit makes every shot.

The beginning setup/alignment is a 1/2 ball view.
Then pivot the tip left or right depending on the shot.

I'm no expert but had 3 very long conversations with Hal Houle on the subject. The length of the lesson was short. The long length of call was listening to his stories. Very interesting stuff. He was tasked with keeping (trying to keep) Ralph Greenleaf out of trouble.

I will tell you that while on the phone and following his instructions, I was hitting a piece of lint. I don't do pockets much so this was just a curiosity for me. I did ask him if this system could be used for 3C in any way. He had never thought about that. So No.
 
DrCue'sProtege said:
I posted this on the Aiming Forum but it doesn't seem to be getting any attention. I thought it might be more visible hear on the main forum.

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I assume this has been asked and talked about before on here. But I really couldn't find a thread that answered this question for me. So here goes.

Is CTE nothing more than aiming the center of the CB to the edge of the OB? Is that all there is to it? Or is it much more detailed than that?

The reason I am asking is I might consider taking a lesson if I can determine if CTE aiming would be of benefit to me.

r/DCP
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Buy the tome: https://www.justcueit.com/buy/p/center-pocket-music-using-cte-pro-one-to-improve-your-pool-game

And shame on you for dragging aiming to the main forum.
 
nataddrho said:
Can someone explain to me in detail what CTE aiming is? I can’t find any information on this forum about this acronym. What does it mean?
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CTE clandestine theatrical experience

is a system of challenges and obstacles that are thrown arbitrarily into the path of an innocent and ignorant victim for their personal benefit and permanent development

the journeys provided through spectacular truths, devastating losses, self annihilating achievements and incalculable inner questioning finally prove that a shift can be found by stepping beyond a mere given field of battle and intrigue, beyond what was once a simple analysis of conflicts and their immediate resolution into an ability to conquer a vast array of innumerable deep underlying enemies that lurk in places that can never be seen or felt
 
markjames said:
CTE clandestine theatrical experience

is a system of challenges and obstacles that are thrown arbitrarily into the path of an innocent and ignorant victim for their personal benefit and permanent development

the journeys provided through spectacular truths, devastating losses, self annihilating achievements and incalculable inner questioning finally prove that a shift can be found by stepping beyond a mere given field of battle and intrigue, beyond what was once a simple analysis of conflicts and their immediate resolution into an ability to conquer a vast array of innumerable deep underlying enemies that lurk in places that can never be seen or felt
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Ma told me it’s the Devil!
 
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DrCue'sProtege said:
I posted this on the Aiming Forum but it doesn't seem to be getting any attention. I thought it might be more visible hear on the main forum.

===================================================================

I assume this has been asked and talked about before on here. But I really couldn't find a thread that answered this question for me. So here goes.

Is CTE nothing more than aiming the center of the CB to the edge of the OB? Is that all there is to it? Or is it much more detailed than that?

The reason I am asking is I might consider taking a lesson if I can determine if CTE aiming would be of benefit to me.

r/DCP
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What you really need is Torrifed Carbon Fiber Solid Maple Low Deflection CTE training, get that and you will be running racks in no time......
 
markjames said:
CTE clandestine theatrical experience

is a system of challenges and obstacles that are thrown arbitrarily into the path of an innocent and ignorant victim for their personal benefit and permanent development

the journeys provided through spectacular truths, devastating losses, self annihilating achievements and incalculable inner questioning finally prove that a shift can be found by stepping beyond a mere given field of battle and intrigue, beyond what was once a simple analysis of conflicts and their immediate resolution into an ability to conquer a vast array of innumerable deep underlying enemies that lurk in places that can never be seen or felt
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Excellent description of the only OBJECTIVE aiming system. 🍿
 
DrCue'sProtege said:
I posted this on the Aiming Forum but it doesn't seem to be getting any attention. I thought it might be more visible hear on the main forum.

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I assume this has been asked and talked about before on here. But I really couldn't find a thread that answered this question for me. So here goes.

Is CTE nothing more than aiming the center of the CB to the edge of the OB? Is that all there is to it? Or is it much more detailed than that?

The reason I am asking is I might consider taking a lesson if I can determine if CTE aiming would be of benefit to me.

r/DCP
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It's likely that most members do not stray outside the Main Forum, and CTE has been beaten to death in the Aiming section. Since later in this thread you show that you have already web-searched on the topic, I'd think you would have a fair idea of the system, but maybe this will help....

The 1/2-ball alignment allows for the baseline direction of the shot (the basic "shot line"). Then, the tip offset is determined for the left/right direction, and degree of cut that is needed. The cue is then aligned as necessary, but then a pivot is used to bring the cue onto the final stroke line.

The "voodoo" in it is that no one has ever (to my knowledge) actually explained how the pivot works *specifically*. It does bring the cue into the correct(-ish?) alignment, although I think this is where detractors of the system think that it simply reinforces a player's prior experience with aiming. Also, every description of the pivoting seems to be a little different, which is where the term "subjective" gets thrown about in CTE discussions. Examples also seem to vary regarding the pivot, although I think the Lil Chris (google it) video demonstrates it working pretty well.

I've fooled around with CTE and pivoting a few times, and it kind of makes me giggle when it works. However, I definitely think that seeing the contact points on the target ball (C, B, A) help to trick/train the brain into actually seeing (and sort of "feeling") the *desired* contact point. For example/comparison, a fractionally aimied 1/2-ball hit is aimed with the same center-to-edge line (CB to OB), and then the CB is hit down that line--there is no consideration for the contact point. But, with CTE, the aim is started with the center-to-edge line, and then the cue is placed on a pre-pivot line, *with* consideration of the contact point(s). Of course, you could argue that no pivot should be needed for the 1/2-ball hit, but I think it's noted on the Dr. Dave page for CTE, that a pivot was completed on ALL shots--credite to Hal Houle, I think? (too lazy to confirm)

Overall, I don't think it's a bad idea to dabble with different aiming styles, but as for determining if it would benefit you relies on you trying it first--regardless of whether some think it's a great system or not.
 
skogstokig said:
OP may not know but aiming discussions are more contentious than israel-palestine on azb. and whenever they break out of their aiming forum-confinement, it quickly escalates into mudslinging.
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Found that out the hard way. 😂
Still don't see why the animosity is out there over something as simple as this. Don't think I ever will, nor try to.😂
 
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