CTE and TOI

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I would rather send John Schmidt.

Lou Figueroa

Actually. John is a top choice.
Please send him. Please, Lou.

Just make sure he can come well before any competitions or after a major competition.

John is fun! I hope it can happen.

Thanks, Lou!

Stan Shuffett
 
Just more marketing claims that can not be proved.

Only thing that improves a persons game is practice and the system used is not important, unless you are selling said system, then you get all these claims about how said system is the greatest.

Funny how all these systems put you at ghostball and over time you will be using ghostball but think you really are using x system. Youll just start to see whete the CB needs to be.

But most on this forum are to lazy to really put in the time it takes to play.great pool, so they use a system in hopes that will make up for their lack of practice.
 
I would rather send John Schmidt.

Lou Figueroa

Lou,

If there are other top players out there that are sincerely interested in real CTE, they can contact me for training. I love what I do and I want to share with all.

I hope that I can schedule at least a couple of top pros for training during 2013.

Stan Shuffett
 
Mr Shuffett,

When you talk about connecting to table geometry are you referring to a system that determines the fullness of the hit based on the diamonds the cue ball and object ball are lined up with and the distance from the object ball to the pocket?
 
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Just more marketing claims that can not be proved.

Only thing that improves a persons game is practice and the system used is not important, unless you are selling said system, then you get all these claims about how said system is the greatest.

Funny how all these systems put you at ghostball and over time you will be using ghostball but think you really are using x system. Youll just start to see whete the CB needs to be.

But most on this forum are to lazy to really put in the time it takes to play.great pool, so they use a system in hopes that will make up for their lack of practice.

This sounds like a troll but I'll bite. There are also those on the forum that lack the knowledge of a said system and blindly refute the idea that it could be beneficial. We boast that all roads lead to rome (ie ghostball) and raise our noses at the idea that some roads are better than others, may be even some not-so-well travelled. And god forbid we actually pay a nominal fee for information that someone else spent years of time and trouble to acquire! Surely this must be snake-oil! ;)
 
I use it and it is very reliable. As for not putting in time, I have 200hrs with Pro One - it is much more consistent than my aiming by feel.

The consistent position and movement into the shot is awesome! Not to mention it is much easier to get to centre ball, less unwanted siding etc.

It isn't for everyone and it takes work - but IMO it is worth it. I am still working hard on this each day. My 7 year old told me the other day when we were playing that he was using Pro One :)

I no longer am overly concerned with the object ball - get my alignment and move to center cue ball.

Gerry
 
Mr Shuffett,

When you talk about connecting to table geometry are you referring to a system that determines the fullness of the hit based on the diamonds the cue ball and object ball are lined up with and the distance from the object ball to the pocket?

This is an explanation that will be on DVD or I can personally show you for no charge at my home no later than spring.

The system takes you to the shot which means the pockets.

Stan Shuffett
 
Stan will you describe on your new DVD the connection between the dominant eye and CTE Pro One?
I feel this was something missing from your first DVD - I think you wanted to avoid creating confusion, but after many hours with ProOne I feel that the system helps my dominant eye staying dominant (from the standing address and acquiring visuals all the way to getting down and addressing the cue ball) for each and every type of cut - this is also why Pro One really straightens your stroke as you say.
 
Stan will you describe on your new DVD the connection between the dominant eye and CTE Pro One?
I feel this was something missing from your first DVD - I think you wanted to avoid creating confusion, but after many hours with ProOne I feel that the system helps my dominant eye staying dominant (from the standing address and acquiring visuals all the way to getting down and addressing the cue ball) for each and every type of cut - this is also why Pro One really straightens your stroke as you say.

CCB is your target. CCB is your primary focus. It is quite easy for most people to see CCB. Hal once used the word obfuscation with me concerning the OB. He was right and the more I play the more it rings true. Center cue ball represents the shot. If you start tweaking to get the OB to look right you got a long road ahead of you. The game is so much easier with a CCB mindset.

Yes, I do discuss the above in my DVD.

Stan Shuffett
 
I do not recommend TOI with CTE.
Real CTE CCB takes me to a slight over cut.
Real CTE takes me to the shot by system.
CTE has zero to do with throwing balls into the pocket.

CCB is HUGE with CTE!!

CCB for CTE means You can be confident in CCB because of the geometry.
Steering is all but eliminated once you are proficient with CTE.
With CTE, the focus switches to CCB, truly away from the distortions the OB can present.

Having said all of that, IT is simple to adjust for spin as needed but when CCB connects me to the pockets, I avoid spin when possible which is most of the time.

Real CTE will allow anyone to dial in on CCB hits because that's how you get the OB in the pocket objectively.

Real CTE can straighten your stroke.

Stan Shuffett

Mr. Shuffett,

Thanks. I went out to play yesterday & woke up late today & wow this has really taken off.

I hear what you are saying & if one is tuely on center line as CTE should bring you then there is some allowance for a very slight off center CB hit.

I am not a system kind of guy other than subconsciously using a mirrored fractional overlap but I am very intrigued by what I have read & by my limited experimentation with it. I know that I do not have a complete understanding of the process. However my intrigue will certainly make me pursue it.

Thanks again,
 
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Mr. Shuffett,

Thanks. I went out to play yesterday & woke up late today & wow this has really taken off.

I hear what you are saying & if one is tuely on center line as CTE should bring you then there is some allowance for a very slight off center CB hit.

I am not a system kind of guy other than subconsciously using a mirrored fractional overlap but I am very intrigued by what I have read & by my limited experimentation with it. I know that I do not have a complete understanding of the process. However my intrigue will certainly make me pursue it.

Thanks again,

Thanks, Rick.
Very nice comment.
Appreciate it!
I have been intrigued for years and wonder if it ever stops.

Stan Shuffett
 
... What I would like is for you to have someone who is a CTE er and just have them contact me and lets go play on Friday.

I want no explanation of what is going on. I just want to play my game and watch what the CTE guy does. This way I am totally unaffected about my stance on CTE and can come away from it with a totally unbiased opinion. It doesnt matter to me whether I win the match or not.

Im going to be looking at the things he does. How he approaches the table, what shots he misses, how he mangages to get position, how he handles safeties and banks, his fundamentals are they sound, how he does his position planning. ...

Robin, you can probably get most of what you are after by watching some of Stevie Moore's matches or even Landon Shuffett's -- see YouTube. That's not an in-person experience, but you'll be able to stop the video, go back, etc.
 
Actually. John is a top choice.
Please send him. Please, Lou.

Just make sure he can come well before any competitions or after a major competition.

John is fun! I hope it can happen.

Thanks, Lou!

Stan Shuffett


I said I'd rather send John vs Nick, not that I would send either ;-)

Lou Figueroa
guess we're not going to learn the difference
between real CTE and non-real CTE
 
I said I'd rather send John vs Nick, not that I would send either ;-)

Lou Figueroa
guess we're not going to learn the difference
between real CTE and non-real CTE

I haven't heard a straight answer either, but I'm guessing "Real CTE" is a term to distinguish ProOne CTE from other flavors floating around like 90/90.
 
I said I'd rather send John vs Nick, not that I would send either ;-)

Lou Figueroa
guess we're not going to learn the difference
between real CTE and non-real CTE

Lou,

I am sure you do not want to learn the difference. It does not matter to me.

Stan Shuffett
 
I haven't heard a straight answer either, but I'm guessing "Real CTE" is a term to distinguish ProOne CTE from other flavors floating around like 90/90.

Monte,

Sorry, if you think I have not been straight with you.

Stan Shuffett
 
Monte,

Sorry, if you think I have not been straight with you.

Stan Shuffett

Absolutely you have been straight with me! :) I'm just referring specifically to "Real CTE" and what it is: is that simply the CTE you teach, or something new/different about the upcoming DVD?
 
Absolutely you have been straight with me! :) I'm just referring specifically to "Real CTE" and what it is: is that simply the CTE you teach, or something new/different about the upcoming DVD?[/

It is this simple. Real CTE is geometric in that it connects you with the pockets. CTE takes you to the shot line or not. I offered you a one day session to explain this to you. (Demo and instruction)

Not. Real CTE: 1 simple example.
If I see a a CTEL as a true 30 degree angle and make shots from that perspective, all I am doing adjusting to make shots. That is not how CTE works as one example. I could go on. Just because a system has a CTE line in it means very little.

I do not think that 90/90 is even purported by Ron to be a true CTE system.

Stan Shuffett
 
Absolutely you have been straight with me! :) I'm just referring specifically to "Real CTE" and what it is: is that simply the CTE you teach, or something new/different about the upcoming DVD?

It is this simple. Real CTE is geometric in that it connects you with the pockets. CTE takes you to the shot line or not. I offered you a one day session to explain this to you. (Demo and instruction)

Not. Real CTE: 1 simple example.
If I see a a CTEL as a true 30 degree angle and make shots from that perspective, all I am doing adjusting to make shots. That is not how CTE works as one example. I could on. Just because a system had a CTE line in it means very little.

I do not think that 90/90 is even purported by Ron to be a true CTE system. I hope to take the opportunity to visit with you soon Stan!

Stan Shuffett

It is correct that Ron does not use the term "CTE" in his system.
 
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