That is a miracle....I have to "turn" my key to get it to start....
I actually just push a button. Still magical
CTE/ PRO ONE with Stan Shuffett
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I actually just push a button. Still magical
I quoted it so I could savor its brilliance whenever I'm feeling down, or not right with the world. Sometimes we just have to behold something beautiful for awhile.
Is that the fairly tale you were told in CTE fairy tale school? After seeing that I have to tell you I have....well...a doubt or two has crept into my mind about the university degree in mathematics you claim.
Or maybe you're just REALLY rusty on your work back then. If it were still fresh in your mind, I'm sure you would recall the importance to mathematics of the refutation proof of reductio ad absurdum--reduction to an absurdity.
If a conjecture leads irrefutably to an absurd situation, the conjecture can be rejected. It's a CORNERSTONE of mathematics, and has been for centuries.
This reductio ad absurdum disproof of CTE was offered by Dr. Dave, in his 3 cut shot example (you'll have to scroll down a bit to the picture of three similar shots lined up on a table.)
The point is that, by your definition, by ANYBODY'S definition that has ever been hinted at, and by implication your recent quote, CTE would give the SAME aiming setup (and thus OB hit point) for each of the THREE different shots. But we already know (from, for example, my calculations in the old "Why CTE is silly" thread) that those three shots CANNOT all be made by hitting the OB in the same place (not even close). Thus, CTE is ABSURD as you describe it, it projects the SAME AIM POINT for three DIFFERENT SHOTS that cannot be made by hitting the same aim point.
Therefore....CTE doesn't work--it is absurd and self-contradictory. If you had really completed a university mathematics degree that absurdity would be ringing in your head now like a cathedral bell.
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Can't be freaking bothered to deal with this anymore..........
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This posts illustrates one thing clearly: you don't understand GetMeThere's (very simple) issue.
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Guess you took me off ignore, ...eh? (hehe).
Why not stop the bickering, use your university brains, and read what I've written. It clearly and easily demonstrates that CTE is silly--for those who can't seem to see it at a glance. Your example is silly; it's depressing that you can't see that.
And if you really had any kind of degree, you surely would have to know how to read. Which, once again, you have proven that you don't. Try reading the description of how to do it REAL SLOW. And, THINK about what it is saying to do. If you then can't see how those three shots are different, aimed the same way, but aimed to three different contact points, then any degree you might have is absurd. :smash::smash:
Where I come from, that's called putting your money where your mouth is.
Do they discuss this in PhD school?
Ha! You say it's SIMPLE, but it's beyond the capabilities of A LOT of very INSISTENT and ANGRY people.
Thanks, Pat.
I tried posting the PDF of my degree I had to give my employer (3M) when I started with them. It was too big to put into the post. I took down the info, as I was sick of dealing with them, but seeing as you put it up, I'll repost.
Shawn Armstrong
University of Guelph
Student number 910 051 190
Office of the Registrar - (519) 824-4120
Contact the Records department - I've given you enough info to get the details of my degree
I have a BA from the College of Physical and Engineering Sciences. Discipline - Statistics.
Oh, you two keep providing the laughs!
Pat is right in that it is a simple issue. The funny part is that you two don't have enough between the ears to figure it out! Oh, GMT, maybe you wouldn't be so insistent and angry if you just used your ol noggin a little.
Well...if you can fathom statistics, then you can understand this. Try PRETENDING you think CTE is wrong, then look at the reasoning I suggested. It should be VERY SIMPLE for you, because you very clearly KNOW what CTE IS.
Look at the 3 shots that Dr. Dave has put out. WHAT would CTE show you to do differently on each of those three shots? Nothing, that's what.
The difference would be that you KNOW they have to be cut at different places, and you would ADJUST to cut in the different places BY YOUR EXPERIENCE AS A PLAYER--not by something CTE told you to do.
Wrong again! Try READING!!! Surely you can figure it out. Or are you saying that a high school grad can figure it out, but you can't with all your supposed degrees???
:idea: Here's a little light bulb for over your head, maybe it will come on and you will finally "get it".
What are you and Pat trying to accomplish? Please, tell us. Are you preaching from the mountain to the undecided as to what aiming system is correct?
Are you trying to make sure that Stan Shuffett makes no money from his DVD sales?
What is your motive for posting "CTE is silly"? I've seen absolutely no content from you with any positive message. You have over 600 posts, and all but 10 of them are about CTE. Are you seriously that driven over this one topic?
Mix it up a little. Dive into another thread. Try to make some friends. I know it will be tough, as you are a little abrasive, but step out from your little "comfort zone of negativity" and try playing nice with the rest of us imbeciles.
Otherwise, I wait for the ban hammer to strike thee into the land of "talking to Pat via PM about CTE", because I'd lay odds that neither of you will be here in a week at this pace.
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I tend to agree with GetMeThere but I'm not going to say bad things about anyone.
My only suggestion is to prove CTE by winning a major tournament with it. If you have perfect aim, you shouldn't have much trouble playing good enough position to win.
My only suggestion is to prove CTE by winning a major tournament with it. If you have perfect aim, you shouldn't have much trouble playing good enough position to win.
It's always the same--no matter what is said, you guys CANNOT answer in regard to CTE. If you have a bachelor's degree in statistics there's NO WAY you don't have the brains to think about the simple points I raised and see with crystal clarity that "CTE is silly."
You ask me what fascinates me about the subject: THAT'S IT--people's extremely WEIRD tendency to believe absolutely CRAZY things! CTE exactly how you have presented it is absurd, yet it seems you will do ANYTHING to keep from allowing yourself to see that. You seem IN PAIN at the prospect of considering that CTE may be absurd--yet, surely, the level of education you have attained makes it very easy for you to see that it is.
My personal motivations are actually this: I simply CANNOT ABIDE not understanding something. I've been that way all my life--and it has often been a curse. So, when something doesn't "make sense"--such as in this case, when the problem is so EASY to see, yet people refuse to see it, then....I just can't give up until it's "settled" somehow.
What this USUALLY involves with me is treating MYSELF as I'm treating you now: because I can't understand something THAT I SHOULD. This is an unusual variation, where somebody ELSE can't understand something they should. For me, the effect is the same: I have to keep hammering away until a breakthrough to clarity happens.
I'm very tenacious. It's helped me accomplish MANY things that few people have or can, and it has also been a source of a lot of frustration and friction in my life. But I am COMPELLED to see things through to the end and make sure they are STRAIGHT!!
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What an unimaginative perspective.
Because I can't have it with you? Frankly that doesn't break my heart. And frankly you're wrong. There are many posters on this forum interested in that question, and they've asked all the questions you're asking many times over - to the point that they're tired of the same old merry-go-round. You haven't been around long enough to know them or to know how redundant you're being.
You only "take them at their word" about things you want to argue about.
For instance, you deny that CTE can really be useful to them though they insist it is.
If all the CTE users you know claim benefits from CTE, and all of them use it in a way that you don't understand, why would you try to change the way they use it before you understand it?
To understand the actual benefits of CTE we need to learn from those who benefit from it. You'll get nowhere (this should be obvious by now) by denying categorically that CTE can be useful, especially by denying it before you know anything about it.
I imagine there are lots of things you've never heard of. What makes you think you know what's best for CTE users? What if some of the real benefits from CTE depend on belief in it? Why should anybody care whether you like that or not?
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Pat's got too many years into saying it can't work as stated to take an honest look at it. His ego won't let him. Get Me There has the worse screen name of anyone ever, as he has no desire to "get there". He just likes making inane arguments, and trying to show his make-believe mental superiority over us peons.
World Championships have been won with it, but the rest of your post shows you have a lot to learn yet.
See, right there is your problem. You are right in stating that you can't understand something that you should. Where you go wrong, is in the fact that since you can't understand it, and your ego won't let you go to someone that will explain it to you, you have to twist it around to others that don't understand. It's not us that don't understand, it's you.
Your hammering away is getting you nowhere. You should have figured that out by now. If you really want the answers, all you have to do is get a lesson, try it, and then you will have the proper info to plug into your little equations. Only then will that little light bulb come on, and you will finally see what we have all been saying. And, when you finally do see it, you will kick yourself because it was there all along. But your ego wouldn't let you see it.
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