Here is the only question I have been curious about regarding cte/pro1. How the heck does this system put you on the correct contact point? I know how 90/90, half ball pivot,see systems or any other cte method does it but I cant figure out how cte/pro1 does it lol is this something covered in the second dvd?
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It can vary from one person to the next, but some explanations can be found here:
Enjoy,
Dave
What specifically do you think is incorrect? I would be happy to attempt to explain it better or change it if there are errors.
Thanks,
Dave
I can't possibly explain what you do personally. Only you could do that. What some people do (whether they consciously know it or not) is described here:ok, explain to me how cte/pro1 will place me on the correct contact point for the shot below. Just to let you know, I shoot cte/pro1 100% of the time and on 99.9% of all shots and I am getting pretty good at potting on a 12-6 snooker table also. We can start this here and find out how much you really know about cte/pro1
and why some people can improve their aiming by using a "system" is described here:
Regards,
Dave
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It doesn't for me,its puts me on it or by it.I manually pivot.You mite have a small range of different cuts do to different bridge length's.(for the same shot for a wide range of people.)I don't pivot when spinning the ball.
This is just me.
Stan,
What specifically do you think is incorrect? I would be happy to improve the resource pages it if there are any misinterpretations or errors.
Thanks,
Dave
The information available in the two links I have provided do the best job I can to explain how CTE-based "systems" help you get to the required contact point for a wide range of shots. And again, different people will do it in different ways.
Regards,
Dave
Would you please present 5 shots, and let's just stay on the half table with cut shots.
Keep the shots relatively simple in that they include CTE shots for Pro one.
You choose the angles that require adjustments. So, you have the upper hand in that you must know the angles that must have adjustments.
I will bet you you $500 per shot that I can make each one according to my pro one system without adjustment.
Now, please present the shots.
Stan Shuffett
Stan,
There is no reason to do this. I am sure you could make any ball on the table with the system you use.
Regards,
Dave
Dr Dave,
First off I want to say that I enjoy your site and it has alot of great info. But why do you feel the need to post on subject material that you don't quite fully understand.....yet. Your collection of CTE material on your site is wrong and misleading. I think that's where alot of the confusion is coming from.
First off I want to say that I enjoy your site and it has alot of great info. But why do you feel the need to post on subject material that you don't quite fully understand.....yet. Your collection of CTE material on your site is wrong and misleading. I think that's where alot of the confusion is coming from.
I can assure you that I can make the shots without adjustment as well.
You can also get the same bet and I will make the same shots into blinded pockets all day long for whatever you want to bet per shot. You can win a few thousand that way.
Your info is wrong. If you had solid info that was correct you could give me 5 shots out of a zillion that must have an adjustment.
Stan Shuffett
Dave, I'm not sure why Stan doesn't just answer your question but that's his business. I didn't thoroughly evaluate your link but it looks to me like the visuals illustrated/shown are simply CTE. That is not how CTE/ProOne visuals work. There is a second visual involved that I believe explains the "needed adjustment" referenced in the link to your site. In other words, the visual isn't purely CTE, one sight line. Were that the case, the diagrams shown in the link would, I believe, be technically correct.
I have personally witnessed Stan make all kinds of shots from all over the table with the pockets "blinded". If memory serves me correctly, he hit all the shots except 1 which rattled the pocket on a 3/4 table 40 degree plus cut.
I answered his question, perhaps indirectly, but his info implies that there are inbetween aim point adjustments that must be made.
That is simply not correct.
Stan Shuffett
Again, if you guys keep saying "all of my CTE material is wrong" without saying what exactly is wrong and without suggesting any corrections or improvements, then the discussion is not very helpful, IMO.
First of all, what do you guys think is incorrect on the following page:
Concerning versions 1-3 of CTE presented here:
These can't be "wrong," because that's how they were described directly by the CTE proponents presenting them.
Concerning Stan's version of CTE, what's written and illustrated is my interpretation of the basics of what he presented on his DVD. If there is anything inaccurate or misrepresented there, please let me know so I can correct the errors. I put a lot of time into studying the DVD and its implications (probably more than most viewers would), so I'm fairly confident in the info, but I am always willing to improve my understanding and presentation of material.
Concerning my evaluation and analysis of the CTE approach, please let me know if there is anything you guys disagree with, and please explain why. I would be happy to make corrections and improvements if healthy discussion and debate leads to new insights and understandings.
Regardless, even if people don't agree with my evaluation and analysis, it doesn't necessarily make it "wrong or misleading." The purpose for the analysis is to help explain how CTE systems might actually work (for the people who like thinking about such things). One certainly doesn't need to know or think about any of this stuff to use the systems effectively. And regardless of how the systems are actually applied by an individual, the systems do offer many obvious benefits.
Regards,
Dave
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For one it's not your place to attempt to explain CTE/Pro-One and secondly why don't you just take it down! You've been told it's wrong and misleading!
Not to start an argument here.
In Pro one you have visuals a,b,c rite? With these visuals you come up with an angle.If you chose to line up in between these visuals(which can be done) you also come up with a potting angle.Why?Why is it in choosing a,b or c we are creating the correct potting angle. There is room for error between the visuals because they also create an angle.
Again not trying to start an argument but it is the truth.Why?
Anthony
In Pro one you have visuals a,b,c rite? With these visuals you come up with an angle.If you chose to line up in between these visuals(which can be done) you also come up with a potting angle.Why?Why is it in choosing a,b or c we are creating the correct potting angle. There is room for error between the visuals because they also create an angle.
Again not trying to start an argument but it is the truth.Why?
Anthony
Thank you for your opinion. I have been very involved with the CTE "debate" for many, many years, so I think I have as much right as anybody to share my perspectives.
... because I put a tremendous amount of time and effort into creating it, and because many people appreciate the perspectives and resources I provide.
You've been told it's wrong and misleading![/QUOTE]... but not how or why. But that's OK. People are allowed to have different perspectives and opinions without having to explain themselves.
Regards,
Dave
It's a perceptual matter not really a shot angle matter.
This will be shown in DVD2.
Stan Shuffett