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Inside sweep thins the cut, outside thickens it up....you can test this yourself if you like...no evidence like the pool table.

This is my understanding - Stan is best to address specifics.

I know it works and it works without fail - I don't concern myself with the 'why' too much.
 
That's right - the sweep was the same across all 4 shots, but it does result in a different cut angle than the initial visuals.
 
This is your four shots and were the tip should be pointing on all 4.(pretty close).You did all shots the same with a inside sweep witch creates a thinner hit.I will try to figure this out.;)

Thanks Anthony
 

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I assume you mean my tip line after the sweep? I wouldn't know as I don't pay attention - just get to CCB. Obviously the 1st shot was a 30 degree shot, which we all know is a half ball hit, the others no idea.

You do raise a good point - before the sweep I have 2 objective points of aim - Center to Edge and Edge to C, after the sweep in some cases my cue is aimed outside the object ball. Imagine how much tougher it would be to start by aiming there and coming straight in...1 visual and not as objective.

The sweep allows me to get two visuals and fall into the correct shot line 100% of the time.
 
Gerry Williams said:
I assume you mean my tip line after the sweep? I wouldn't know as I don't pay attention - just get to CCB. Obviously the 1st shot was a 30 degree shot, which we all know is a half ball hit, the others no idea.

You do raise a good point - before the sweep I have 2 objective points of aim - Center to Edge and Edge to C, after the sweep in some cases my cue is aimed outside the object ball. Imagine how much tougher it would be to start by aiming there and coming straight in...1 visual and not as objective.

The sweep allows me to get two visuals and fall into the correct shot line 100% of the time.
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Yes.

Gerry one thing that is bugging me you have a couple of thick shots here off the cte line.If you did a inside sweep which makes more of a cut ,wouldnt you be aiming out past the cte line?
 
No.

If I did a left sweep on the last shot it would have come close to banking back in the corner. It is a perception - don't think angles.

Go shoot the shots - I am not sure what you are looking for but I have spent 300+ hours with this and it is the best thing I have ever introduced to my game.

You won't learn this system on the forum - that much I know.

As for sweeps - it is the movement into the ball that is equal to a 1/2 tip manual pivot. Once again all on the DVD.

Cheers,
Gerry

8pack said:
Yes.

Gerry one thing that is bugging me you have a couple of thick shots here off the cte line.If you did a inside sweep which makes more of a cut ,wouldnt you be aiming out past the cte line?
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Gerry Williams said:
No.

If I did a left sweep on the last shot it would have come close to banking back in the corner. It is a perception - don't think angles.

Go shoot the shots - I am not sure what you are looking for but I have spent 300+ hours with this and it is the best thing I have ever introduced to my game.

You won't learn this system on the forum - that much I know.

As for sweeps - it is the movement into the ball that is equal to a 1/2 tip manual pivot. Once again all on the DVD.

Cheers,
Gerry
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Gerry not trying to put you through a grinder.
Just trying to understand what you are doing.I think the visual thing is what's causing some of the trouble for me.Maybe for other people to.

I got over 5 years invested with some serious hours.:)
Well worth it though.Still just a banger.

Visually doing something(when pivoting)isn't hard at close range.Distance creates errors.(for me)I like sighting straight down the cue,kinda like a straight in shot.
You shoot well maybe some time you can do a video of the visual sweep thing.

Appreciate your input..Anthony
 
mohrt said:
From my own experience and discussions I've had with Stan, I believe that visuals are going to be the same for all right handers. Lefties will be exact opposite. Eye dominance has zero to do with the visuals! However, I cannot (yet) say this with conviction. This is my own experience and understanding, so take it for what its worth.

That said, I just went to the table and tried some different visuals to see what eye was picking up what.

For A/C thick shots (left or right cuts), my right eye picked up both lines every time. For shots with a B alignment, my left eye would pick up the left line and my right eye would pick up the right line. For thin cuts, my right eye picked up thin left cuts and my left eye picked up right thin cuts.

Others proficient with CTE PRO ONE please post your findings, I would be interested to hear. Also say if you are right/left handed or right/left eye dominant. I am right handed, left eye dominant.
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Mohrt,
Thanks for your input. I thought that for cuts to the right one should use the right eye to capture the edge of the CB to the A, B, C and 1/8 on the OB and the left eye for cuts to the left.

In another thread, I asked if a one eyed man could become proficient and the answer was yes. I think that there are some users that have a dominant eye that is being used for both left and right cut shots.
 
LAMas said:
Mohrt,
Thanks for your input. I thought that for cuts to the right one should use the right eye to capture the edge of the CB to the A, B, C and 1/8 on the OB and the left eye for cuts to the left.

In another thread, I asked if a one eyed man could become proficient and the answer was yes. I think that there are some users that have a dominant eye that is being used for both left and right cut shots.
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I have two eyes so I cannot answer that question :) But yeah I'm assuming there is some level of compensation that could happen to make one eye work for all shots. You would just learn the sweep movement for that eye, and stick to it.

btw, my article is up.

http://www.billiardsthegame.com/perception-is-everything-689
 
mohrt said:
I have two eyes so I cannot answer that question :) But yeah I'm assuming there is some level of compensation that could happen to make one eye work for all shots. You would just learn the sweep movement for that eye, and stick to it.

btw, my article is up.

http://www.billiardsthegame.com/perception-is-everything-689
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mohrt,
Great read and well written, but there are 3D cad tools that can translate a 2D image to the 3D image with foreshortening....:):thumbup:

The diagramming would be easier in 3D/perspective if there was only one or dominant eye - as has been done for eclipse aiming etc.

"In the land of the blind, the one eyed man is King."

Thanks.
 
JB Cases said:
In case anyone is wondering Anthony is himself an accomplished player who uses some form of pivot aiming but he is kind of mysterious about it. Don't treat him like an anti-aiming system naysayer. I think what he is wanting to lead up to is an easier to understand description of how instructions to pick one of four visual approaches accounts for any possible shot.

Tony can play. https://www.youtube.com/user/MyBuster14/videos
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Thanks John.
Not sure how accomplished(im just a banger really ) I am but I've always kept an open mind about things.
I know I say some goofy sh!t from time to time but I mean well.
I hope anyone who is trying anything new,don't give up on other things.
It could stunt your growth.:D:

Man I need to learn to write..lol

Anthony
 
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