CTE - SP's (sight points?) / SL's (sight lines?)

Patrick Johnson

Fish of the Day
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the goal is to aim at center cueball, every shot, what is not objective about that?
There's a different CB "center" from every possible shooter's position around it.

Not understanding how this isn't "objective" is a pretty sure sign the whole topic is misunderstood.

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cookie man

AzB Silver Member
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There's a different CB "center" from every possible shooter's position around it.

Not understanding how this isn't "objective" is a pretty sure sign the whole topic is misunderstood.

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And CTE defines the different CB centers. Maybe, just maybe it's you that doesn't have enough CTE knowledge to understand how CTE does this. Misunderstandings come from the misinformed.
 

Renegade_56

AzB Silver Member
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There's a different CB "center" from every possible shooter's position around it.

Not understanding how this isn't "objective" is a pretty sure sign the whole topic is misunderstood.

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The cueball has one center only, no matter where it is on the table, or any other balls on the table. The method, done as Stan describes it, places the shooters eyes in position to THAT center cueball relative to the location of the object ball, and relative to both the cueball and object ball position to the pocket. Where you actually see that ONE center from is the result of getting your eyes in the correct position before addressing the ball. From there the object ball never needs to be seen again, since the only thing left to make the ball is aim at the center of the cueball from that point and stroke the ball. Thousands of people can do it without fail, you and a hand full of others can't, but yet you few are the only ones who understand it. Yea okay.
 

boogieman

It don't mean a thing if it ain't got that ping.
but yet you see ghost balls all over the table,,,,,,,,,,
And you also visualize with CTE, both utilize visualization techniques. I'm not in favor of ghost ball, except for teaching the concept of where to hit a ball to a beginner. You must execute the shot and learn from the results. This is how you play pool and get in line with any aiming system. CTE limits variables and gives a systematic way to practice pool.

You can also align your stance to CBC to an edge or center of the OB and have good results. This is a method @CJ Wiley has made some videos of recently. Getting good at pool is all about seeing correctly and estimating what will happen. When we are in dead stroke, our mind/body is just conforming to how the balls behave naturally.
 

bbb

AzB Gold Member
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The cueball has one center only, no matter where it is on the table, or any other balls on the table.
dont know if this is helpfull
cueball core red dot.png
cueball cire with circle.png
 

Submerge

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If you look at a CB with, let's say, your right eye, you can move your head so that eye sees the center of the CB. This is the center that YOU see based on your eye position. Use a mark on the ball to mark this center. Now, while in this same exact position, without moving your head at all, shift your sight to see the right edge of the CB. You will quickly notice that the mark is no longer in the same center it was before (as long as you are still looking at the edge). The new center is the "stepped center". Shift eyes back to original position and the mark will again be in the center. This offset or shift in perceived CB center is used to determine the amount of pivot to use for any CTE shot. It yields the most objective shot line possible in my opinion. It's not a "feel" thing any more. Took me about a month on the table, every day, to "see" this. Others can get it in a day, and still others may never get it.....
 

Patrick Johnson

Fish of the Day
Silver Member
If you look at a CB with, let's say, your right eye, you can move your head so that eye sees the center of the CB. This is the center that YOU see based on your eye position. Use a mark on the ball to mark this center. Now, while in this same exact position, without moving your head at all, shift your sight to see the right edge of the CB. You will quickly notice that the mark is no longer in the same center it was before (as long as you are still looking at the edge). The new center is the "stepped center". Shift eyes back to original position and the mark will again be in the center. This offset or shift in perceived CB center is used to determine the amount of pivot to use for any CTE shot. It yields the most objective shot line possible in my opinion. It's not a "feel" thing any more. Took me about a month on the table, every day, to "see" this. Others can get it in a day, and still others may never get it.....
Here's a diagram of that:

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Low500

AzB Silver Member
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And you also visualize with CTE, both utilize visualization techniques. I'm not in favor of ghost ball, except for teaching the concept of where to hit a ball to a beginner. You must execute the shot and learn from the results. This is how you play pool and get in line with any aiming system. CTE limits variables and gives a systematic way to practice pool.

You can also align your stance to CBC to an edge or center of the OB and have good results. This is a method @CJ Wiley has made some videos of recently. Getting good at pool is all about seeing correctly and estimating what will happen. When we are in dead stroke, our mind/body is just conforming to how the balls behave naturally.
"CTE limits variables and gives a systematic way to practice pool."
^ Truth.

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(actually that's what ALL aiming systems propose to do....CTE just does it more efficiently)
 
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