Cte

[JoeyA]

For me, an aiming system determines the shot line. Alignment means to align the cue (and your body) with the shot line. This is where the controversy comes from. Because if CTE was an aiming system it should be able to determine the shot line. And it would do so clearly for every shot, demonstrable on paper - like GB or CP, if you ignore friction. And it wouldn't need a debate over 50 threads each longer than 50 pages that only seems to makes us all look silly.
But as an alignment method, it makes much more sense. It would explain the pivot as it helps you to align your cue with the shot line. The pivot is always the one part that is open to creativity. It would also explain, why some people use slightly different methods like edge-to-center, edge-to-edge or center-to-center(?) and they all seem to work as well. Pro One is different from CTE with its reference points, but both are supposed to work. CTE isn't suddenly considered to be a mistake that Pro One has now corrected. As aiming systems they can't all be right. But as alignment methods they all share the pivot. What is easier to execute: Air pivot or table pivot?

I think that many of you who are asking these questions should be answering them yourselves. Not being snooty or anything but if you study the video of CTE/Pro One which can be purchased by clicking here, you should be practicing the pivot and you should be able to determine which is easier to execute for yourself. I'm sure it varies from one person to the next.

I don't discuss CTE, never have never will, primarily because I wasn't able to get any consistency with it. CTE/Pro One is a different animal altogether. CTE/Pro One has a video out and ONE producer, one line of information.

You can't get information on CTE/Pro One but from ONE SOURCE. Stan Shuffett created CTE/Pro One. Yes, it was Hal Houle who Stan studied under. After years of using CTE, Stan refined it to form CTE/Pro One. Yes, Landon Shuffett studied under Hal Houle's watchful eyes and many, many others. Yes Hal Houle was the ORIGINATOR of CTE and Hal deserves a lot more credit than he gets for conceiving these different aiming systems.

Furthermore, I think the scuttlebutt about whether CTE/Pro One is an alignment system or an aiming system is just plain silly. CTE/Pro One is BOTH.

But that's just me.

JoeyA

 

[pablocruz]

That's pretty much true about the x-angle systems like CTE. But the reason is that the system users are still making the same wrong claims they made all those years ago.

These systems are not "exact". They've been falsely advertised (probably not purposely) for more than a decade and it continues today right here on AzB.

pj
chgo

You don't know that!! Because you don't know CTE/Pro-1!! I don't think you ever will!!

 

[Patrick Johnson]

These systems are not "exact". They've been falsely advertised (probably not purposely) for more than a decade and it continues today right here on AzB.

pj
chgo

pablocruz:
You don't know that!! Because you don't know CTE/Pro-1!! I don't think you ever will!!

I don't use CTE - but I know more about how it works than you do (or any other CTE user here, except maybe the one or two rational ones who have showed up recently). Your constant complaints that CTE can't be understood without being "learned at the table" are just your excuse for not being able to understand or explain away the points being raised. CTE can be understood more completely than CTE users do without ever going near a table - it's CTE users who don't understand that.

pj
chgo

 

[pablocruz]

I don't use CTE - but I know more about how it works than you do (or any other CTE user here, except maybe the one or two rational ones who have showed up recently). Your constant complaints that CTE can't be understood without being "learned at the table" are just your excuse for not being able to understand or explain away the points being raised. CTE can be understood more completely than CTE users do without ever going near a table - it's CTE users who don't understand that.

pj
chgo

I understand it very well, thank you!! I don't need to explain anything to you!! You're just a "TROLL."

 

[champ2107]

I decided last night when i was playing to use a little bit of feel on certain shots and it worked out for me and im not saying i couldn't make the shots with out feel, but i decided to do it anyway. Now if you think using feel will help you shoot better using cte/pro1 than i think you should use a bit of feel. I think i will shoot this way from now on and encourage people to do this also. Maybe this will quiet certain people down?

 

[Patrick Johnson]

I don't need to explain anything to you!!

No, you don't. Unless you want other readers to believe you know what you're talking about.

pj
chgo

And, BTW, bye. The less pure noise the better.

 

[8pack]

1,000 hours of practice on the pool table = better shotmaking.

Continuous typing on CTE threads = more WPM's keyboard abilities.


You guys ought to be qualified for secretarial jobs by now!!!



Maniac (do you know shorthand?)

You know there's some truth to what your saying,i feel my shot making has suffered sinces joining here but my smartness is getting better.

 

[ThePoliteSniper]

I think that many of you who are asking these questions should be answering them yourselves. Not being snooty or anything but if you study the video of CTE/Pro One which can be purchased by clicking here, you should be practicing the pivot and you should be able to determine which is easier to execute for yourself. I'm sure it varies from one person to the next.

I don't discuss CTE, never have never will, primarily because I wasn't able to get any consistency with it. CTE/Pro One is a different animal altogether. CTE/Pro One has a video out and ONE producer, one line of information.

You can't get information on CTE/Pro One but from ONE SOURCE. Stan Shuffett created CTE/Pro One. Yes, it was Hal Houle who Stan studied under. After years of using CTE, Stan refined it to form CTE/Pro One. Yes, Landon Shuffett studied under Hal Houle's watchful eyes and many, many others. Yes Hal Houle was the ORIGINATOR of CTE and Hal deserves a lot more credit than he gets for conceiving these different aiming systems.

Furthermore, I think the scuttlebutt about whether CTE/Pro One is an alignment system or an aiming system is just plain silly. CTE/Pro One is BOTH.

But that's just me.

JoeyA

1) I have no intention of buying the DVD.

2) This was a serious question. Because if this works like I suspect, then the air pivot should be the way to go. I'm going to try CTE as an alignment system this weekend, which means I will take care of the aiming but still go through the CTE process.

3) If I'm right, the pivot alone should be enough and I mean "pivot" in the most liberal sense.

4) Whether it is an aiming system or an alignment system does matter if one wants to figure out what's really going on.

 

[JoeyA]

1) I have no intention of buying the DVD.

2) This was a serious question. Because if this works like I suspect, then the air pivot should be the way to go. I'm going to try CTE as an alignment system this weekend, which means I will take care of the aiming but still go through the CTE process.

3) If I'm right, the pivot alone should be enough and I mean "pivot" in the most liberal sense.

4) Whether it is an aiming system or an alignment system does matter if one wants to figure out what's really going on.

Are you going to combine the aiming points A, B or C with the CTEL?
JoeyA