Cue Construction
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Personally I would not play with a cue that I couldn't adjust the weight up or down an ounce or so.
Just don't understand if there is a downside to that.
I usually order the butt at 14 oz then I can add a .20 or a .50 weight bolt if I want to.
I see it as a plus not minus to have that as an option.
Pretty much any good cue-builder, I would other imagine......I know the custom cue-builders I am personally familiar with could build the cue with or sans any weight bolt.
I have 2 Diveney's myself and like 99.9% sure they don't have the weight bolt either. I like my shooting cue very light a d wouldn't ever want to make it heavier. My b/j is heavier UT that's due to the dymondwood shaft, which weighs 6.1oz on its own.
Bolts
Think it would be up to Buyer when ordering up a custom. I personally like a weight bolt. Every cue plays a little different so for me some start where I prefer as an baseline however might need fine tuning up and or down for that particular cue. Something you cannot due without the bolt option.
I have had and have cues now that have no bolt that hit very good for me however should I want to sell I am limited to a buyer that likes the weight and you somewhat limit potential buyers when 'boltless'.
As far as 'hit'. I feel no negative effect of a weight bolt installed properly.
Have a nice evening,
-Kat,
Think it would be up to Buyer when ordering up a custom. I personally like a weight bolt. Every cue plays a little different so for me some start where I prefer as an baseline however might need fine tuning up and or down for that particular cue. Something you cannot due without the bolt option.
I have had and have cues now that have no bolt that hit very good for me however should I want to sell I am limited to a buyer that likes the weight and you somewhat limit potential buyers when 'boltless'.
As far as 'hit'. I feel no negative effect of a weight bolt installed properly.
Have a nice evening,
-Kat,
I'm shooting with a cue made by JoeyInCali (Bautista) that has no weight bolt. In fact the only metal in the cue are the brass rings as the pin is a radial G-10. He achieved my desired weight and balance while making the cue.
I, personally, don't understand why a player would want to keep changing the weight of their playing cue-- but to each his own
I, personally, don't understand why a player would want to keep changing the weight of their playing cue-- but to each his own
I don't really see how. Buyers order cues like "I want 19. 3 ounces and a 12.8 mm shaft.
How do you make a cue to exacting spects without pins to adjust the weight and balance?
Uh.......what?
Balance is more important than weight.
I think I woke up this morning to find myself in "Bizarro World" (aka....htraE)........OMG.......Welcome to DC Comics.
Ignorance & misunderstanding doesn't deserve, or warrant, a posted reply other than..........
"Welcome to Bizarro World!"
p.s Balance is the result of managing the weight during construction.....custom cue-makers know exactly what every element in the cue contributes
to the weight and final balance..........they do not just stick a bolt up the ass of the cue butt to hit the customer's desired weight..... cue making is an art.
What is the "balance point" of a cue, and does it affect shot performance? (From....Dr. Dave)
A cue's balance point is its center of gravity, which is the point at which you can balance the cue (e.g., if you support it on a finger). Obviously,
the balance point needs to be in front of the grip hand; otherwise, the front of the cue would lift up off an open bridge. Other than that, the balance
point is mostly unimportant (except for personal preference based on "feel"). The balance point certainly does not impact shot effectiveness, even
for follow shots with an open bridge. The CB is long gone before the bridge even feels the effect of the tip-CB collision.
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I suppose that cue weight warrants some coverage and so I present the following for your consideration.
“Optimal Cue Weight” ILLUSTRATED PRINCIPLES by Dr. Dave Alciatore, PhD
"Pool players on the online forums and Facebook often ask: What is the best weight for a playing cue? Or: Is there an optimal weight for a break cue?
I will attempt to address these questions in this article. For your main playing cue, you should use whatever weight feels most comfortable. Different
weights can produce slightly different results; but with practice, one can get accustomed to a cue of any weight. You will learn to adjust your stroke
as necessary to achieve the range of cue speeds appropriate for different shots. The only shots for which cue weight can make a significant different are
power shots (e.g., an extreme power draw, or the break shot), as discussed later in the article.
In general, a lighter cue will allow more control over finesse shots, and a heavier cue will allow more cue ball (CB) speed with less apparent stroke effort.
A heavier cue might also be easier for some people to keep on line during the stroke, but this is a very individual thing. Also, a heavier cue might tend
to have a shaft withmore endmass (the weight of the portion of the shaft closest to the tip); although, this isn't necessarily the case. If it is, the heavier cue
will create more squirt (AKA "cue ball deflection"), which can have both advantages and disadvantages for different people."
“Optimal Cue Weight” ILLUSTRATED PRINCIPLES by Dr. Dave Alciatore, PhD
"Pool players on the online forums and Facebook often ask: What is the best weight for a playing cue? Or: Is there an optimal weight for a break cue?
I will attempt to address these questions in this article. For your main playing cue, you should use whatever weight feels most comfortable. Different
weights can produce slightly different results; but with practice, one can get accustomed to a cue of any weight. You will learn to adjust your stroke
as necessary to achieve the range of cue speeds appropriate for different shots. The only shots for which cue weight can make a significant different are
power shots (e.g., an extreme power draw, or the break shot), as discussed later in the article.
In general, a lighter cue will allow more control over finesse shots, and a heavier cue will allow more cue ball (CB) speed with less apparent stroke effort.
A heavier cue might also be easier for some people to keep on line during the stroke, but this is a very individual thing. Also, a heavier cue might tend
to have a shaft withmore endmass (the weight of the portion of the shaft closest to the tip); although, this isn't necessarily the case. If it is, the heavier cue
will create more squirt (AKA "cue ball deflection"), which can have both advantages and disadvantages for different people."
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+1 !!
Keith believe in letting the wood balance naturally.
Despite me fitting an LD shaft on my Josey, Keith balance it really well for me and my preferred weight is 20-20.5 oz.
Always love the stability that heavier cue gives me
Cues without a hole for a weight bolt have a different resonance than those with one, some cuemakers even make cues where you can't put a bumper on it (bumpers mute the vibrations/sound). Some have a preference because of the balance point and the ability to change that or the weight, so it really depends on the player and why or why not have a hole in the back of your cue.......or what weight you put on that fact.
My guess is that if someone picks up a cue and likes it then they find out later it isn't built the way they want it (with or without a weight bolt) they will instantly play worse with the cue or not like it as much afterwards. For the most part pool players are equipment junkies and headcases, I know I played great with a cue till I found out it was a half in shorter than standard and couldn't make a ball with it afterwards ha ha. Ah the old days and youth, so many lessons to learn!!
Neil
My guess is that if someone picks up a cue and likes it then they find out later it isn't built the way they want it (with or without a weight bolt) they will instantly play worse with the cue or not like it as much afterwards. For the most part pool players are equipment junkies and headcases, I know I played great with a cue till I found out it was a half in shorter than standard and couldn't make a ball with it afterwards ha ha. Ah the old days and youth, so many lessons to learn!!
Neil