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Tifosi

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I made this in AutoCAD since I cant afford the real thing. If it looks familiar it's because I got some ideas from Richard Black's Athena.

Any cue makers who can give me a quote on that? I want to know how many limbs it would cost me. :D

BTW I'd like the handle to be burl, the forearm either rosewood or macassar ebony.
 

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You did THAT in AutoCAD???????? HOLY $#!T MAN...
I bow down, humbled :D .

Thanks,

Jon
 
That's a very nice design.
There could be some structural complications though. You have have butterfly over v-point in the forearm. The handle is presumably wood and the points overlap it plus you a got a butterfly in there to and with veneers?
Too many pieces to be glued up - that is assuming it is done this way.
Just my opinion.
 
hadjcues said:
That's a very nice design.
There could be some structural complications though. You have have butterfly over v-point in the forearm. The handle is presumably wood and the points overlap it plus you a got a butterfly in there to and with veneers?
Too many pieces to be glued up - that is assuming it is done this way.
Just my opinion.
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The butterflies should be no problem at all. The two full splices would be the hard part. IMO

Tracy
 
Making the butterfly is easy, but when you think about joining it's end with a full splice is where the problems would prolly arise - construction wise I feel it would be weak. another factor is the handle part, which appears to be a burl. Not advisable for a part in the splice - too brittle.

On the other hand, if it would be a CNC flat bottom inlayed cue all the way, it would prolly do. :D
 
Gee I only understood about 5% of that conversation. But I wouldn't mind at all if it was a flat bottom inlayed cue.
 
hadjcues said:
Making the butterfly is easy, but when you think about joining it's end with a full splice is where the problems would prolly arise
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It seems we agree on this point.

hadjcues said:
construction wise I feel it would be weak. another factor is the handle part, which appears to be a burl. Not advisable for a part in the splice - too brittle.

On the other hand, if it would be a CNC flat bottom inlayed cue all the way, it would prolly do. :D
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The burl should not be a problem, because most of the glueing would be to the butterflies. Dave Barrenbrugge [sp] does designs that are similar to this. I think it would be a strong joint. When I said the full splice would be the hard part, I meant, not many cuemakers do full splices. I think the combined butterfly/v point look is cool.

Tracy
 
Tifosi said:
I made this in AutoCAD since I cant afford the real thing. If it looks familiar it's because I got some ideas from Richard Black's Athena.

Any cue makers could give me a quote on that? So that I would know how many limbs it would cost me. :D
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That cue will definitely be too weak if everything's spliced, especially with the burl handle. Butterfly splices together with V splices..I think maybe you should try Dave Barrenbrugge or Joel Hercek. Unfortunately, Mr Barrenbrugge only deals through the japanese website of www.ilovecues.com. Joel Hercek does butterfly splices underneath his wrap sections, but you'll have to ask him personally if he is willing to do your design. Be prepared to pawn a kidney or two though..hehe
 
TiNy said:
That cue will definitely be too weak if everything's spliced, especially with the burl handle. Butterfly splices together with V splices..I think maybe you should try Dave Barrenbrugge or Joel Hercek. Unfortunately, Mr Barrenbrugge only deals through the japanese website of www.ilovecues.com. Joel Hercek does butterfly splices underneath his wrap sections, but you'll have to ask him personally if he is willing to do your design. Be prepared to pawn a kidney or two though..hehe
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I think in general the cue is an expensive design, but the cuemakers name will have more to do with it then anything else. PFD can and has done stuff like that, since you've seen the Athena you know Dick Black can handle the gig, but if I were you I'd give Paul Fanelli in NJ a call, he is great with butterfly and spliced points combined, you can see some of his cues at classiccues.com also Joe Van knows him and may be able to be the go between, of course he's a cheapass and a snake so that would involve him getting a vig on the deal. BTW I feel that most of the top guys would CNC that cue with flat bottom points, but I also think that a burl handle will lend itself to the whole cue being cored so I doubt you'll have structural issues.

Jim
 
It just hit me that paul posts here, maybe you can PM him and ask him what he thinks of the design. If it's cheap enough maybe we'll all get one, let us know how you make out.

His SN is paul Fanelli , he's not very original with his handle :-)

Jim
 
JimBo said:
It just hit me that paul posts here, maybe you can PM him and ask him what he thinks of the design. If it's cheap enough maybe we'll all get one, let us know how you make out.

His SN is paul Fanelli , he's not very original with his handle :-)

Jim
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Paul makes a great looking cues.
Great choice.
 
JimBo said:
It just hit me that paul posts here, maybe you can PM him and ask him what he thinks of the design. If it's cheap enough maybe we'll all get one, let us know how you make out.

His SN is paul Fanelli , he's not very original with his handle :-)

Jim
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Thanks, guys....It really is a good looking cue, the geometry and the materials, the colors. While I have mixed b.f. splices and points, it has always been short splice points. A small shop does not lend itself to the luxury of dedicated single purpose machinery, a necessity for doing full splice work. This would be an expensive cue to produce as splices, but could be done with cnc and look v.good. I like the look, though, and I might try to find a way to do something similar.

paul
 
Very nice design indeed. I noticed though that that outer yellow veneer is going to cause complications since it's terminated by the innermost butterflied ivory splice.
Edwin Reyes
 
bandido said:
Very nice design indeed. I noticed though that that outer yellow veneer is going to cause complications since it's terminated by the innermost butterflied ivory splice.
Edwin Reyes
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That is a something driffrent .i would love to see it when find someone to put it together..
 
nice design fairly simple to make, i was thinking of something similar only the buterflys between the points like the old 36's, boy how about a pair?
 
Very nice design

You might want to give Mark Bear a shout. As you can see, you both kinda think alike. His AZ handle is Full Splice. Here is one I bought about four months ago. Dam nice hitting cue. Ivory joint and Butt plate. Full splice w/butterfly splice.
Purdman :cool:
 
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