cue help

chamillionare

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just wondering if someone can point me in the right direction, i would like to order either over the phone or via internet 1 30 inch 314'2 and 1 30 inch z shaft to be sent to australia.

but i want them both to have 11mm ferrules so i need a cue maker i guess?

is there a shop that has these in stock that will machine them down and ship to me in australia.

thanks any help would be appreciated
 
well doing that would void the warranty so u might as well just try buying it from the wanted/for sale forum instead. someone there probably has what u're looking for.
 
im not worried about the warranty i just dont want or really have the time to be running around modifying shafts i thought there must be a cue company that will machine the shafts down and ship them to me?
 
i dont think retailers would do it for u. so u'd have ot buy it and send it off to a repairman to get the shafts taken down before having it sent to australia. cant u get one of those shafts in australia. i think it would save u a lot more money if u just go it there.
 
Nobody in there right mind would try to cut a 314 2 from 12.75 to 11.00. The shaft would probably fall apart or would fall apart soon after you hit a ball with it. It's just not possible.
 
i bought a 314 at the vegas ipt comp and machined it down to 11.4 it plays ok but im not 100% happy with it, so with a new ferrule it can be done

there is no one i know of to get it from in oz there is one predator dealer but he is just a pool player with a few shafts. it would be easier to ship directly from the usa
 
im not bothered about paying over i just want an easy one step purchase i have been meaning to get one for 9 months and i keep putting it in the too hard basket
 
ABall said:
Nobody in there right mind would try to cut a 314 2 from 12.75 to 11.00. The shaft would probably fall apart or would fall apart soon after you hit a ball with it. It's just not possible.
Same thing I was thinking.:( Unless you tendon the shaft like some do. You got to understand 314s are basically hollow you can only go so small.
 
so are you saying that the hollow part in the new 314 is bigger than in the original?

because i also tried at the same time as the ipt 18 months ago a 314 that is cut down to 10.5 mm, i have had no problems with the ferrule although this ferrule is a black colour maybe it is a stronger material than white plastic?

if the hollow in the shaft is the same then i know it works fine already, i just want to try something in between 10.5 and 11.4

someone has to be able to to this as i had it done in an hour at the venue 18 months ago
 
chamillionare said:
just wondering if someone can point me in the right direction, i would like to order either over the phone or via internet 1 30 inch 314'2 and 1 30 inch z shaft to be sent to australia.

but i want them both to have 11mm ferrules so i need a cue maker i guess?

is there a shop that has these in stock that will machine them down and ship to me in australia.

thanks any help would be appreciated


Get in contact with one of the cue makers.
I'd recommend Keith Josey from Virginia US, as he's more than skillfull and trustable and I've understood he has Predator shafts at his work shop.

http://www.joseycues.com/
 
Maybe a better idea would be to turn to snooker cue maker John Parris. I think he made american pool cues specifically for Steve Davis and Tony Drago. If I were a real snooker player trying to quickly convert to pool, I'd prefer that route instead of Z shaft.
 
predator said:
Maybe a better idea would be to turn to snooker cue maker John Parris. I think he made american pool cues specifically for Steve Davis and Tony Drago. If I were a real snooker player trying to quickly convert to pool, I'd prefer that route instead of Z shaft.


Not a bad idea this one either.

Tony plays with a small tip and pockets 'em pretty accurate and spins the whitey well too. Still I've understood that he's looking for something new.
 
chamillionare said:
so are you saying that the hollow part in the new 314 is bigger than in the original?

because i also tried at the same time as the ipt 18 months ago a 314 that is cut down to 10.5 mm, i have had no problems with the ferrule although this ferrule is a black colour maybe it is a stronger material than white plastic?

if the hollow in the shaft is the same then i know it works fine already, i just want to try something in between 10.5 and 11.4

someone has to be able to to this as i had it done in an hour at the venue 18 months ago


The 314-2 shafts and z-2 shafts are made from the same
blanks as I understand. 11 would be cutting it close,
but shouldn't be a problem. However, since they are the same except for the diameter, after you modify them to
11mm they'll both play almost exactly the same.
And about the Parris, well you might actually be able to get a "real" one, but I don't have to tell you that.

gr. Dave
 
p shaft

The 314-2 shaft is 12.75 at the tip and stays @ about the same
for the first 12" or so before starting to get bigger.

The Z-2 is 11.75 at the tip and starts getting bigger immediately.

I've had 314 shafts that were less than 11.5

There are plenty of good sawdust makers that can do what you
want. PM me if you need more info.
-cOOp
 
Ferrule is an Issue Also

rackem said:
Same thing I was thinking.:( Unless you tendon the shaft like some do. You got to understand 314s are basically hollow you can only go so small.

I recently broke a ferrule on my 314-2 shaft. The ferrule has 2 parts. There seems to be a main core, that goes into the hoolow portion of the shaft. The other is a sheath that goes over this main core. When I broke mine, a part of the outer layer broke off. THe shaft still played fine but it annoyed me so I sent it in.

If you took the shaft down to 11 mm, I would think the outer portion of the ferrule would break or crack in absolutely no time.

Additionally, with that hollow portion, I don't see the shaft lasting very long at all if it is taken down that small.

As far as putting a tenon in it, wouldn't that completely defeat the purpose of the hollow portion contributing to the low defelction characterisitcs of the shaft?
 
i saved this picture of a broken down 314-2 on my computer, but i can't remember where it originates from, perhaps one of the forum members took it. anyways, i can't imagine taking down the shaft by much, unless you would replace the ferrule as well.

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