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Snapahed

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My grandfather left me this cue. Was wondering what it's all about. Has the signature Raymond Calvert 1989. Thanks!! ImageUploadedByTapatalk1362274085.418003.jpgImageUploadedByTapatalk1362274097.633118.jpgImageUploadedByTapatalk1362274110.800028.jpg
 
"Raymond Calvert" was a fictitious cuemaker invented by Adam/Helmstetter, a marketing ploy they repeated under a number of different made-up cuemakers' "names". The Calvert line was promoted as the first cues ever using industrial lasers to cut the inlay parts. It was not a particularly successful effort.

The character "Raymond Calvert" was claimed to be a well-known fashion designer - a story no more true than "Julio Stambolini's" supposed career as a master violin maker (Stambolini was another one of the Adam/Helmstetter non-existent cuemakers).

TW
 
What's the value of something like this? I found one for sale for $375.00. This one hasn't been used in over 14 years and has been stored in a 2x2 oval cue case.
 
imo, $100-150ish maybe if it's straight & playable....not big desirability factor with these.
 
imo, $100-150ish maybe if it's straight & playable....not big desirability factor with these.


I agree. Sometimes they will do a little better on Ebay, but I would say that's realistic.

To the OP, you noted one for sale at $375...remember that is a for sale price, it does not mean it will sell for that.




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looks like theres a chunk of ivory missing in the second pic.

Id give you 50 for it just so I could have a conversation piece in the shop.
 
If real ivory, maybe a hundred or so more, but it would be tough imo to find a buyer willing to pay top dollar with the condition issues and super rounded inlays.
 
What's the value of something like this? I found one for sale for $375.00. This one hasn't been used in over 14 years and has been stored in a 2x2 oval cue case.

Your interest in this cue's value is now a little disheartening.
In the real world, a cue or anything else is only worth what someone is willing to pay you.
The nostalga factor would render this cue priceless....but only to you.
If my grandfather had left me this cue, I would treasure it forever.
Even with the broken inlay.

KJ
 
KJ... Ur assumption is that I am wanting to sell it. Just because I ask the value does not mean I want to sell it. I like to know what I have and it's monetary value.
 
Calvert was instrumental in bringing CNC to cuemaking. He was a true craftsman that invented 9th axis transdimensional machining as well as the little known 10-72 x 2 1/2" long threaded joint pin. The joint was known to cause the clock to be called because of the time it took to screw the shaft to the butt. Sometimes delaying matched by 1/2 hour or more.

He met a tragic end unfortunately when he wanted to be the first person to try and harvest alligator testicles for layered tip material. Seems gators don't like to have their balls cut off. :D

JV
 
Calvert was instrumental in bringing CNC to cuemaking. He was a true craftsman that invented 9th axis transdimensional machining as well as the little known 10-72 x 2 1/2" long threaded joint pin. The joint was known to cause the clock to be called because of the time it took to screw the shaft to the butt. Sometimes delaying matched by 1/2 hour or more.

He met a tragic end unfortunately when he wanted to be the first person to try and harvest alligator testicles for layered tip material. Seems gators don't like to have their balls cut off. :D

JV


I heard that the tragedy occurred while Ray was attempting a durometer test the hard way>>:eek:
 
Calvert was instrumental in bringing CNC to cuemaking. He was a true craftsman that invented 9th axis transdimensional machining as well as the little known 10-72 x 2 1/2" long threaded joint pin. The joint was known to cause the clock to be called because of the time it took to screw the shaft to the butt. Sometimes delaying matched by 1/2 hour or more.

He met a tragic end unfortunately when he wanted to be the first person to try and harvest alligator testicles for layered tip material. Seems gators don't like to have their balls cut off. :D

JV

Had I known that, i may have appreciated mine a bit more. I once met a guy named Dick H. he was making some fantastic golf equipment at the time, but seemed really knowledgeable about pool cues.

I asked him what I should buy. He said just get you an Adam and you will play real good. well it did not seem to help my game so i asked about an upgrade...He said you may not be ready for it, but go buy a Julio Stamboulini cue.

Well I really could see some change in my game finally. but i wanted more, more i tell you!

Feeling a little weird by now, I asked him what would be the next and proper progression from there? A "Robert Weir" was his answer. but I was unable to find this elusive cue and had to ask once again the advice of the all knowing golf club guru for help. But this time I said I can handle it..Just steer me to the best cue in this or any other world!!

He finally guided me to George Balabushka! and I now possess a George Balabushka with his signature right on the forearm.

Oh Yea!

P.S
that is not real ivory. but it is cool looking for an ivory substitute.
 
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What about those gator testicle tips? Has anybody picked up where he left off? I wanna be able to say my cue is the nutz....



As far as signed cues, I have one signed by Hoppe and one signed by Worst. They didn't make them...but I can only assume they played with them since they are signed. :thumbup:

Then of course I have some signed by Mizerak and Rempe as well, but I suspect those were made in Asia, though they must have played with them because they are signed.....:thumbup:


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On second thought, a gator testicle layered tip may not get along well with an ivory ferrule and elephant ear wrap.......


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KJ... Ur assumption is that I am wanting to sell it. Just because I ask the value does not mean I want to sell it. I like to know what I have and it's monetary value.

Point taken.
There certainly are many reasons for wanting to know the value of something, ex: insurance.
My point was that this cue's value goes way beyond monetary.
Enjoy your cue.

KJ
 
Good point about the insurance. If you inherit something like a cue and have no idea of its value it really is best to get some idea.






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