Cue Length Question

9balllvr

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I would like to know from the experienced players out there if there is any benefit to having a slightly longer cue? I have a long stroke/bridge and when I have played with a couple of cues that are an inch or so longer than an average cue, it appears to help my accuracy. I am wondering if it is purely mental or if a longer cue can help someone in such a way.

Thanks,
9balllvr
 
9balllvr said:
I would like to know from the experienced players out there if there is any benefit to having a slightly longer cue? I have a long stroke/bridge and when I have played with a couple of cues that are an inch or so longer than an average cue, it appears to help my accuracy. I am wondering if it is purely mental or if a longer cue can help someone in such a way.

Thanks,
9balllvr

Take it from me a guy with a 75 inch reach, having a cue balanced for your reach and grip does help. But keep this in mind the amount of deflection will increase. I play with a 60" cue and it has suppurb balance, but the only issue I and you'll have is when you shoot with any other cue (like a house cue that standard 57") you will have trouble adjusting.

My jump/break cue is also 57" so I have trouble going back and forth.

IMO
 
i'm using a 58" cue right now, i am thinking of using a 59" that i'm having shafts made for right now. I have used a 60" cue for about 2 years-long ago, Tang Hoa perfers a 60" cue and he is a monster when he is in stroke. there is no reason not to use whats comfortable for you. Some guys like shorter cues, i cant make a ball with them, but thats just me.
 
tjlmbklr said:
Take it from me a guy with a 75 inch reach, having a cue balanced for your reach and grip does help. But keep this in mind the amount of deflection will increase. I play with a 60" cue and it has suppurb balance, but the only issue I and you'll have is when you shoot with any other cue (like a house cue that standard 57") you will have trouble adjusting.

My jump/break cue is also 57" so I have trouble going back and forth.

IMO

I was thinking of 59"- just a small jump from the norm, but thanks for the thoughts - I will keep that in mind.

9balllvr
 
Fatboy said:
i'm using a 58" cue right now, i am thinking of using a 59" that i'm having shafts made for right now. I have used a 60" cue for about 2 years-long ago, Tang Hoa perfers a 60" cue and he is a monster when he is in stroke. there is no reason not to use whats comfortable for you. Some guys like shorter cues, i cant make a ball with them, but thats just me.

I think it was more of if it truly makes a difference or if it is mental. I suppose it doesn't matter if it works - I just didn't want to buy or have a cue made and find out that it doesn't make a difference after all.
 
9balllvr said:
I think it was more of if it truly makes a difference or if it is mental. I suppose it doesn't matter if it works - I just didn't want to buy or have a cue made and find out that it doesn't make a difference after all.

At 6'5" and with a very wide wing span I firmly believe that 59" is the best length, I have been playing with a 59" cue for almost 18 yrs. Big Bob Ogburn turned me on the longer rod and I never looked back. Even my B/J is 59"...go figure. Meanwhile, my star female student/friend Crystal McCormmick has one of my old Searing's and its 59", damn near taller than her. My choice is butt 29"/shaft 30". We have stood next to one another 9balllvr {Valley Forge} and IMO a 59" will work perfect for ya, just get used to the extra 1" before trying to play league or a tournament...good luck.
 
9balllvr said:
I think it was more of if it truly makes a difference or if it is mental. I suppose it doesn't matter if it works - I just didn't want to buy or have a cue made and find out that it doesn't make a difference after all.

it DOES make a difference, its not just mental, any change you make on a cue does have an effect on your game, try a few different things and see what works best, thats the part of the fun of pool.
 
Voodoo Daddy said:
At 6'5" and with a very wide wing span I firmly believe that 59" is the best length, I have been playing with a 59" cue for almost 18 yrs. Big Bob Ogburn turned me on the longer rod and I never looked back. Even my B/J is 59"...go figure. Meanwhile, my star female student/friend Crystal McCormmick has one of my old Searing's and its 59", damn near taller than her. My choice is butt 29"/shaft 30". We have stood next to one another 9balllvr {Valley Forge} and IMO a 59" will work perfect for ya, just get used to the extra 1" before trying to play league or a tournament...good luck.

Thanks Voodoo-I appreciate your input. It is bizarre how different it made me feel when I played with one - almost like it evened me out, if that makes sense. Anything to help my game, I am all for it. Hope you are taking care of yourself. Btw, I am off to Maryland soon - if you ever make it that way, you have a place to crash. Take care.
 
Fatboy said:
it DOES make a difference, its not just mental, any change you make on a cue does have an effect on your game, try a few different things and see what works best, thats the part of the fun of pool.

Thanks Fatboy.
 
9balllvr said:
Thanks Voodoo-I appreciate your input. It is bizarre how different it made me feel when I played with one - almost like it evened me out, if that makes sense. Anything to help my game, I am all for it. Hope you are taking care of yourself. Btw, I am off to Maryland soon - if you ever make it that way, you have a place to crash. Take care.

Maryland...nice. Well I to relocate soon to Michigan, door is always open. I'm almost able to play more than 2 hours at a time...knee/back problems ruin many a pool player, lol. I dunno what kind of cue you are using and it really doesnt matter. HAVE THE 30" SHAFT MADE BY A SOLID CUEMAKER, ok?
 
Voodoo Daddy said:
Maryland...nice. Well I to relocate soon to Michigan, door is always open. I'm almost able to play more than 2 hours at a time...knee/back problems ruin many a pool player, lol. I dunno what kind of cue you are using and it really doesnt matter. HAVE THE 30" SHAFT MADE BY A SOLID CUEMAKER, ok?


sounds good - btw, between the two of us moving, i think we have the country covered :D
 
My weapon of choice is 59 in. as well, player and j/b. It just feels better to me and I am not constantly grabbing the bumper of the cue.
 
Voodoo Daddy said:
... HAVE THE 30" SHAFT MADE BY A SOLID CUEMAKER, ok?

Make sure that it is tight-grained hard rock maple. By tight-grained, I mean that it has at least 21 rings per inch -- the cuemaker will know what this means. If you can't get this, DO NOT SETTLE for anything less than well-aged and 18 rings per inch.

Additionally, the extra inch or two of length will add an unexpected amount of flex ("whip," for lack of a better description). If you are used to a 16" pro taper, have your cuemaker make it a 14" taper -- if you have liked a 14" taper, bring this down to 12". Your cuemaker will know what taper you currently have by examining your cue shaft. I would also say that, if you already have a taper shorter than 13", you can use about the same taper as you already have.

And finally, have your cuemaker cut your new ferrule to 5/8" length, instead of the currently universally popular 1". This is the EASY way to cut down on "end mass" as an aid against deflection. Additionally, the shorter tenon length will, just like pitched tuning forks, "vibrate" faster than the longer tenon, therefore assuring the necessary anti-deflectionary "quick recovery."

Both of these principles are what Predator considered when designing their high-tech ferrules to cut down on deflection. If you like a tip diameter of 12mm or less, then have the ferrule length cut to 9/16" -- stability is KING, here, and I have found, through personal experience, that this ferrule length adjustment according to tip diameter has a great deal of merit.

I have tried all this out at length, including shooting with Predator shafts/ferrules and the special Meucci shafts/ferrules over extended periods of time. The layout I described above has at least as low deflection as all of the specialty equipment, costs far less, and is easier to make/modify.
 
mailman said:
Make sure that it is tight-grained hard rock maple. By tight-grained, I mean that it has at least 21 rings per inch -- the cuemaker will know what this means. If you can't get this, DO NOT SETTLE for anything less than well-aged and 18 rings per inch.

Additionally, the extra inch or two of length will add an unexpected amount of flex ("whip," for lack of a better description). If you are used to a 16" pro taper, have your cuemaker make it a 14" taper -- if you have liked a 14" taper, bring this down to 12". Your cuemaker will know what taper you currently have by examining your cue shaft. I would also say that, if you already have a taper shorter than 13", you can use about the same taper as you already have.

And finally, have your cuemaker cut your new ferrule to 5/8" length, instead of the currently universally popular 1". This is the EASY way to cut down on "end mass" as an aid against deflection. Additionally, the shorter tenon length will, just like pitched tuning forks, "vibrate" faster than the longer tenon, therefore assuring the necessary anti-deflectionary "quick recovery."

Both of these principles are what Predator considered when designing their high-tech ferrules to cut down on deflection. If you like a tip diameter of 12mm or less, then have the ferrule length cut to 9/16" -- stability is KING, here, and I have found, through personal experience, that this ferrule length adjustment according to tip diameter has a great deal of merit.

I have tried all this out at length, including shooting with Predator shafts/ferrules and the special Meucci shafts/ferrules over extended periods of time. The layout I described above has at least as low deflection as all of the specialty equipment, costs far less, and is easier to make/modify.

Solid advice!!!!
 
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