Cue Locker

Wags

Wags

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Finally after many years, we had made the perfect rental cue locker. I just have to show it off and brag.

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It has 72 lockers - 19 small@$60/year - 28 med@$96/year and 24 large@$120/year.

The smalls hold a 1 x 1 - med, a 2 x 4 - large, anything.

Nice extra income after it pays for itself

Jay
 
Great pic

Make sure they all sign waivers for liability! Your insurance company probably will not pay for others property that is stored in your place without additional coverage. Love the lockers though. We have 8 wooden ones and 12 metal ones for larger cue cases. They take up a lot of room but the regulars really appreciate them. Wish we had the room to redo them like yours! Great model.
 
What are u bragging about?

Wags said:
Finally after many years, we had made the perfect rental cue locker. I just have to show it off and brag.

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It has 72 lockers - 19 small@$60/year - 28 med@$96/year and 24 large@$120/year.

The smalls hold a 1 x 1 - med, a 2 x 4 - large, anything.

Nice extra income after it pays for itself

Jay
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That they look nice? Or that you are charging for rent?
They do not look like they can store todays style of cue cases. Maybe if your pictures had a more dimension accurate shot.
I have 20 gym lockers that I assign for free to anyone. Seems like a good service to provide rather than jacking up prices. If you need the money raise it elsewhere. It is like renting house cues. Sorry to bust your bubble but my philsophy is different.
They sure look beautiful though.
 
We keep customers cues for them behind the bar, they understand that if a fire or theft should happen they are out of luck--.
I think your lockers look great and smart business too!
 
And

poolhall maven said:
We keep customers cues for them behind the bar, they understand that if a fire or theft should happen they are out of luck--.
I think your lockers look great and smart business too!
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Do you charge for that service to your regular customers? No way in hell would I ever charge to keep a customers cue safe if he wanted to store it there. And besides that if you do charge anything then you become responsible for the property to a greater degree in case something happens to it. Not good business.
 
No I do not charge my customers to keep their cues--but...if I went to all the trouble and expense to build cue lockers with hardware and keys I would charge them...
 
I really don't think you would

poolhall maven said:
No I do not charge my customers to keep their cues--but...if I went to all the trouble and expense to build cue lockers with hardware and keys I would charge them...
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So if you think about it, a regular customer who probably spends 25-50
bucks a week for about $2500 a year times a minimum of 10 regulars , so you make $25,000 off them, not to mention since they have their own cues it costs you nothing to provide house sticks, you would stick it to them if you provided a service like private lockers and charge them? You pay for all perks in a pool room that will be appealing to customers. Including recovering tables. Would you raise prices every time you recovered a table? You have to pay for that, just like lockers. I would be embarassed to ask for money. I do not let customers keep there cues behind the counter because I do not want the responsibility for me or my employees. I have found they get given out in error to the wrong people, or customers convince the house man or woman that they have permisson to use the cue. Not good business. So provide a locker if possible. It is part of the investment in the business. Tax deductible I might ad. I also don't charge for customers to watch sports on the t.v.'s. Oh and by the way , I have been successful for 30 years, I like to think it has a little to do with giving back to good customers.
 
If the ph I frequent had lockers I would GLADLY pay to rent one. It would NEVER occur to me that maybe they should be free. Just my 2 cents worth as a customer.
 
Glad to hear you have been successful for 30 years, pretty soon you will catch up to my husband/myself in your length of service...I still stand my by statement that I would charge rent for personal and private service of cue lockers. Since I do not plan on building any and I already keep customers cues as a free service (my employees are trained not to give out customers cues--other than to said customer) the point is moot.
 
Thats not the point

JimS said:
If the ph I frequent had lockers I would GLADLY pay to rent one. It would NEVER occur to me that maybe they should be free. Just my 2 cents worth as a customer.
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It doesn't matter what you think or what you would do it is what the business owner "should" do. So according to you , you would also pay rent for keeping it behind the counter. Or if a concientious business owner puts in lockers for the regular customers at his own expense, you would volunteer to pay even though he is not charging? Why not thank him instead? wow
 
Not really

poolhall maven said:
Glad to hear you have been successful for 30 years, pretty soon you will catch up to my husband/myself in your length of service...I still stand my by statement that I would charge rent for personal and private service of cue lockers. Since I do not plan on building any and I already keep customers cues as a free service (my employees are trained not to give out customers cues--other than to said customer) the point is moot.
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Unless you are there 24/7. You probably also believe none of your employees give away free stuff to friends. Pretty naieve if you do.
You also don't seem to get, that when you take possession of someone elses property you become more responsible for payment if stolen or damaged. When somone pays you a fee it is even worse. There is reasonable care and great care. When it is great care, you will pay for a stolen cue probably. It is not worth it if you can get around it. You know running a pool room has enough problems without adding more.
 
JimS said:
If the ph I frequent had lockers I would GLADLY pay to rent one. It would NEVER occur to me that maybe they should be free. Just my 2 cents worth as a customer.
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I am the other side of this. The room I play in does have lockers (not like this). But, I wouldn't leave my cues there for a few reasons:
  1. I like to travel to other rooms on a fairly regular basis. The room is on "summer hours" and I really wouldn't be able to get my cue when I wanted to.
  2. I try to practice with my cues on my small home table.
  3. Not knocking any other room or room owner, but the room I play in isn't really the place to be leaving anything of any value in.
 
I don't know why you are insulting me to prove your point. I am hardly naive, one learns that in this business quickly. Our customers are aware that we are not responsible for their cues, in case of fire or theft, because the sign on the way says so....
 
nfty9er said:
Unless you are there 24/7. You probably also believe none of your employees give away free stuff to friends. Pretty naieve if you do.
You also don't seem to get, that when you take possession of someone elses property you become more responsible for payment if stolen or damaged. When somone pays you a fee it is even worse. There is reasonable care and great care. When it is great care, you will pay for a stolen cue probably. It is not worth it if you can get around it. You know running a pool room has enough problems without adding more.
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We get your point. Quit trying to force your opinion on others. We know how you feel, we got that from your 1st post.
 
Well Said

I'm mad at you txspaderz, ya beat me to the punch.

Well said though, just drop it.

Each person made a point in their first post. There's absolutely no reason to continually repeat it.

Best of luck this week in everyone's respective matches.
 
I do want to say though that is a BEAUTIFUL locker. The design, the stain, everything is very classy. That reminds me of locker's you'd find in old school New York in Cigar Shops. You know, the ones that sell those $3000.00 logs?
 
lol, yeah, I know what you mean, being a cigar man myself :) lol, Especially some of the cigar boxed that I have seen on evilbay :) lol

The lockers look great, especially the finish and the various case size options, which is very well thought out IMO, and definitely worth having in any good pool room :)

As reguards insurance, etc, it would be worth having a separate liability insurance cover for the cue locker, and have the locker fees cover the cost of the insurance policy for itself, I'd like to think that there is some way or another that it could be set up, but in a way that if any customers who have a locker, and leave their cues in the room, but not in their locker, that the room owner is not responsible for the cue if it is lost, stolen or damaged, that way, at least way, room owners can have a cue locker, and it can be covered by insurance that only covers the cue locker and it's contents :)

I don't know if this would be feesable or not, but it would at least be worth while looking into for future reference :)

Willie
 
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the locker is BEAUTIFULL! its shown that a lot of work went into it. as far as a good idea or not, that will be determined in the long run. its nothing more than a minor risk to take. i would love to see these in pool halls as it adds to the atmosphere so to say. it reminds me of stories my grandfather would tell about pool halls and playing for whats in his locker at the train station "il bet your 5 against my locker at the trainstation, heres the key" with nothing at all in the locker. lol. back on track, good luck with getting a little extra $ in the long run
jay
 
Oh my

I didn't realize this thread was going to cause such an uproar. Yes we do have a waiver of liability. I agree, VERY necessary.

As owners, we all know how the market and opportunities for sales is dwindling. We add food to keep customers in the room. We add alcohol to keep people in the room. We have all lost cue and knick-knack sales to the internet.

I look at the locker as a convenience for our regular customers, just like the food and beverage. We don't give those things away. If a customer keeps his cue in a nice secure locker that is placed where all the counter people can see it directly, then he/she will be playing at your place, or at least have to come in to get the due if going somewhere else.

We have HOT competition in Minneapolis/St. Paul and anything we can do to get an edge AND is helpful to the bottom line is a plus.

I appreciate everyone's comments and compliments.

Jay

"Sometimes you just have to hit 'em hard and wish 'em well" - Howard Vickery
 
Do the math.

It has 72 lockers - 19 small@$60/year - 28 med@$96/year and 24 large@$120/year.
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Jay[/QUOTE]
Hey wait a minute there is a locker missing.:D :D
I was thinking about doing a cue locker cabinet with an old post office box front.
Your locker is very nice. Did you or one of your customers do it?
 
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