cue making equipment LATHE QUESTIONS!

ugotactionTX

ugotactionTX

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I would like to do some minor repair, tips, ferrules, wraps, stuff like that. At some point I want to try building a complete cue myself.

I have a chance ot get a 6" Atlas(craftsman) 101.20140 with 36" between centers.

I know that a large spindle would be required for some operations but this
has only a 3/4 " bore. I have had lots of trouble finding a lathe somewhere
semi close and this one is local

Do you think it would be a good lathe for around 700.00 it is in very good
shape. NO SHIPPING!!!

thanks for your help
 
ugotactionTX said:
I would like to do some minor repair, tips, ferrules, wraps, stuff like that. At some point I want to try building a complete cue myself.

I have a chance ot get a 6" Atlas(craftsman) 101.20140 with 36" between centers.

I know that a large spindle would be required for some operations but this
has only a 3/4 " bore. I have had lots of trouble finding a lathe somewhere
semi close and this one is local

Do you think it would be a good lathe for around 700.00 it is in very good
shape. NO SHIPPING!!!

thanks for your help
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I have my doubts about that being the correct spindle bore. That sounds like a lot of money for that lathe. Also, are you sure about that length?

http://www.lathes.co.uk/craftsman/page5.html
 
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ugotactionTX said:
I would like to do some minor repair, tips, ferrules, wraps, stuff like that. At some point I want to try building a complete cue myself.

I have a chance ot get a 6" Atlas(craftsman) 101.20140 with 36" between centers.

I know that a large spindle would be required for some operations but this
has only a 3/4 " bore. I have had lots of trouble finding a lathe somewhere
semi close and this one is local

Do you think it would be a good lathe for around 700.00 it is in very good
shape. NO SHIPPING!!!

thanks for your help
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Have you seen the lathe 'in person'?
That number sounds like a small lathe that was - IIRC
18 in between centers max, and mostly 12 or so.
The spindle bore was 5/8 - if there was a hole at all.
I have one with a solid spindle.

FWIW - if it is a 36 in model, you can indeed use it for all you
will ever need to do with a cue - BUT, you will have to use a
steady rest for most cue work. These can be found on fleabay
from time to time - expect to pay mucho.

IMHO - $700 is a deal for a 36 in lathe - but 2 or 3 times
what a 6 x 12 should cost.

Dale<resting steadily>
 
I have seen the lathe in person took the measurments myself. it 36 between centers, 3/4 spindle bore, 120v motor, quick change,
the number on the lathe is 101.20140 in one place then a 101.074
I also found 9-37a c

I have looked for some kind of referance for model numbers for atlas/craftsman to find out more about it but no luck.

anyone know a good source ?
 
ugotactionTX said:
I have seen the lathe in person took the measurments myself. it 36 between centers, 3/4 spindle bore, 120v motor, quick change,
the number on the lathe is 101.20140 in one place then a 101.074
I also found 9-37a c

I have looked for some kind of referance for model numbers for atlas/craftsman to find out more about it but no luck.

anyone know a good source ?
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It sounds more like one of these
http://www.lathes.co.uk/craftsman/page2.html
 
How did you determine it was a 6" X 36" lathe. I have had three Atlas Metal lathes and seen many more and all of the 36" between centers lathes were either 12" or 10 inch lathes. If you measured from the bed up to the center of the spindle and the measurement was 6 inches that is a 12 inch lathe. The 6 inch lathes did not have a large enough spindle bore to do ferrule work through as they had a #1 Morse taper. The 12" and 10" have #3 morse taper spindles with the small diameter of the spindle bore being 3/4". Those are very easy to set up taper bars on. So if it is a 10" or 12" x 36" then it is a good deal for $700 I think.
 
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the 6" part of the measurement could very well be wrong. I was told by someone that that's what he thought it was. However, the 36" max between centers is correct. I will disclaim this by saying I am new to lathes of this type but really want to try my hand at a few things.

Is there a resource to look up what I have based on the numbers found and listed above?

After reading your post Cueman, I think it could very well be a 10 or 12" lathe. Here are a couple of pics


thanks for you help
 

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ugotactionTX said:
the 6" part of the measurement could very well be wrong. I was told by someone that that's what he thought it was. However, the 36" max between centers is correct. I will disclaim this by saying I am new to lathes of this type but really want to try my hand at a few things.

Is there a resource to look up what I have based on the numbers found and listed above?

After reading your post Cueman, I think it could very well be a 10 or 12" lathe. Here are a couple of pics


thanks for you help
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This looks like a 12-36........for $700 with the quick change box you better snatch it up.
It is a good lathe the start with even though it has the small bore. As your shop grows it can be used for a dedicated set up turning rounds and tapering shafts or what ever else you like. With a little thought you can build complete cues on one like this with a steady rest.
 
ugotactionTX said:
the 6" part of the measurement could very well be wrong. I was told by someone that that's what he thought it was. However, the 36" max between centers is correct. I will disclaim this by saying I am new to lathes of this type but really want to try my hand at a few things.

Is there a resource to look up what I have based on the numbers found and listed above?

After reading your post Cueman, I think it could very well be a 10 or 12" lathe. Here are a couple of pics


thanks for you help
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You say tomato...

It's probably a English/American point.

Americans designate the turning DIAMETER of a lathe.
The Brits refer to the radius of the capacity

Soooo what we call a 12 x 36 is indeed called a 6 x 36 by some.

Dale<on a mission to know everything that doesn't matter>
 
pdcue said:
You say tomato...

It's probably a English/American point.

Americans designate the turning DIAMETER of a lathe.
The Brits refer to the radius of the capacity
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And then there are the vast majority who just don't know.

When I'm talking machines with folks who know very little about what they have, I find that asking about the machines weight is always a good idea. I've called poorly-worded advertisers and cut through a lot of nonsense by asking about the machines weight (questions like "can 2 men lift it ?").

BTW, if anyone cares, after looking at the pics, I stand by my advice in the other forum.

pdcue said:
Dale<on a mission to know everything that doesn't matter>
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Call me if you need any help :o

Dave
 
From looking at the pics, it looks like the Craftsman version of the Atlas QC54, I have a TH42 that I modified to use the QC54 bed and leadscrew. Just the quick change gearbox alone is worth around $400-500 on Ebay, depending on condition. My advice would be BEFORE any money changes hands, run it under power and listen for any noises, even run the power crossfeed and run the carraige up and down the ways under power at different speeds. They are a good lathe, but parts aren't cheap or easy to find sometimes. If anything is worn, you want to know it going into it upfront. I would also bring a dial indicator to check the ways, never hurts.
Good Luck,
Dave
 
ugotactionTX said:
the 6" part of the measurement could very well be wrong. I was told by someone that that's what he thought it was. However, the 36" max between centers is correct. I will disclaim this by saying I am new to lathes of this type but really want to try my hand at a few things.

Is there a resource to look up what I have based on the numbers found and listed above?

After reading your post Cueman, I think it could very well be a 10 or 12" lathe. Here are a couple of pics


thanks for you help
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That looks like a 10" Atlas to me. I sold mine a few months back for about three times that much. But mine did have taper bars, Router, Collets and Steady rest and so on with it. So I still think $700 is a good deal if the gears are running good. You will have to spend some money on it to make it work on cues even for minor things like tips and ferrules. After getting a cue lathe with larger bore headstock I only used mine for tapering. You will need a toolpost, probably new chuck, steady rest, live centers, drill chuck, lathe pins, bearing for steady rest and collets, left of headtock support for steadying shaft when doing tip and ferrule work. That will make it into a repair lathe. Then to build cues you will need router and taper bars. If you like tinkering with things you should enjoy converting it over for cue work.
 
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