Cue Points and Similarities; Huebler and Joss vs. Giuli

[TerryZak]

Greetings,

I have a question for the experts, please.

There are three pictures below. The first is of my '98 Huebler JB-4 and I've always loved the points on that cue. I recently purchased a Joss 10-12, which I admired the point work on as well. Yesterday I saw a post for a Giuli 5 Point, Black Palm and couldn't help but notice the similarity in the point work and pattern.

While the Joss has an additional black border to the point work, aside from that there appears to be tremendous similarity.

Is this just coincidence, or, are point work veneers purchased from a common source somewhere?

Any insights would be appreciated,

Terry

 

[Michael Webb]

Greetings,

I have a question for the experts, please.

There are three pictures below. The first is of my '98 Huebler JB-4 and I've always loved the points on that cue. I recently purchased a Joss 10-12, which I admired the point work on as well. Yesterday I saw a post for a Giuli 5 Point, Black Palm and couldn't help but notice the similarity in the point work and pattern.

While the Joss has an additional black border to the point work, aside from that there appears to be tremendous similarity.

Is this just coincidence, or, are point work veneers purchased from a common source somewhere?

Any insights would be appreciated,

Terry

Hi Terry
The least replied to threads on this Forum.,
Is about points and veneers.
There are many ways to do them where they look similar but different methods and machines are used to do them.
Instead of me boring you,
Please do a search here.
If you come up empty, I'll come back in when I have more time

Thank you

 

[TerryZak]

Thank you Michael,

I'll search the forum.

 

[Kim Bye]

Some combinations just go well together, like yellow/orange/black so you get that fire look. Or just red/black, blue/black. The black paper gives a nice sharp contrast to the veneer colour(s) you want to use and makes it pop more.

 

[Michael Webb]

Thank you Michael,

I'll search the forum.

This will help. Use your imagination.
Do Vee points and veneers look alike.
Well, depends on who you ask, but similarities exist.

Google Search

 

[TerryZak]

I spent a few hours combing through posts about full-splice, half/short-splice, and recut points; all of which I really didn't know much about.

Saw some cool pictures of a CNC cutter (90-degrees) cutting down the length of the butt, which I had no idea about.

Also saw that there are different ways to make up the veneer stacks.

Yet, at least to me, my original question is still valid, especially after seeing the CNC cutter making a pass down the butt.

My thinking is just like folks purchase blanks from various suppliers, for a short-splice cue wouldn't it be possible to purchase four quadrants from a supplier, that already had the points assembled to either side of the maple; make that CNC cut, and then glue in four of these quadrants right into the butt of the cue and then turn down from there?

Theoretically, it seems possible and would help keep production costs down. But I'm not sure if anyone is doing it?

Thanks in advance,

Terry

 

[TerryZak]

This will help. Use your imagination.
Do Vee points and veneers look alike.
Well, depends on who you ask, but similarities exist.

Google Search

Thanks Michael, Even though I've been playing pool on/off for 40-years, I haven't known much about cue construction methods and am just starting to learn about that. So in my case, part of the issue is not knowing enough to be able to ask a specific or intelligent question!

I can understand your and other members frustrations when a noob asks what seems like an obvious question, especially if there's information already on the forum. I see this a lot on ChargerForums.com, as I'm also a motor-head type.

Based on your input, my next searches will be about the differences between "Vee points and veneers".

I'm pretty certain my JB-4 Huebler is a full-splice with veneers, but from your statement suspect that the Joss 10-12 I purchased is using Vee points.

Thanks again for your guidance,

Terry