Cue shaft playability differences

336Robin said:
And it also why I quit playing with an LD shaft entirely and went back to Natural Maple.

I want my squirt to be predictable, not so finite it's hard to measure it.

I play with 2 shafts and really light butt that is nothing but a piece of wood with a 3/8 x 10 pin in it.
Plays better than anything I've ever played with. Total weight 15.66 ounces. My cue ball is on a string
and much better than when I played with 19 or 18 ounce cues. Everyone should give this a go and
see for themselves. The cloth we play on today is fine and cue ball rolls forever. No reason not to go lighter.
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After I got my TS cue, it immediately dawned on me I should have switched to lighter cues long ago.
My first custom cue I ordered was a Runde Schon in 1984. It is a gorgeous cue but it weighs a ton.

The cue butt has a large diameter butt like most cues at that time and weighs 20.35 ozs. It plays
great, or so I believed for two decades until I played with a lighter weight, flat ivory radial pin TS cue.

I was instantly sold within 15 mins and it was the reason all the cues in my case have similar specs.
My cue case is a 6x12 and all the cues within are flat faced ivory big pin designs weighing 18.5 ozs.
The cue butts & shafts are the same diameter and similar weights (14.5 oz. butts and 4 oz cue shafts).

OMG, after playing with a piloted steel joint Schon cue that was nearly 2 ozs. heavier than any of the
cues in my case, it was like I discovered how to play a musical instrument I had previously struggled
learning & mastering. All of a sudden my cue turned into making melodic sounds & I was playing music.

I squandered so many years trying to play better when all along, I was playing with a cue I loved but was
heavier than necessary. After finding my sweet spot for pool cue specs, it became the standard for me.
If I were to order another cue built, it would absolutely have the same specs as the cues in my 6x12 case.

There’s been probably 60-70 players that have tried my Scruggs. I have a waiting list of friends that want to
buy it and price was never an issue. I can make a very handsome profit if I decided to sell it. But I couldn’t
part with it except through my estate. It otherwise seems like such a rare cue that I could never replace it.
Not a single person that’s tried my Scruggs hasn’t fallen immediately in love with the way it played for them.

Why? It is a flat faced ivory Scruggs radial pin custom cue weighing 18.4 ozs.; my other cues are 18.5 ozs.

And another revelation happened for me 2 years ago. I started playing with Kielwood shafts. Wow…..so much
better than original maple shafts as as long as you can duplicate the weight of the original maple shafts. For
me it became a challenge to find cue makers that could build a KW shaft that wasn’t cored, didn’t have any
weight added via inserts and was just solid wood and had to be 3.8 to 4.2 ozs. with a targeted weight of 4 ozs.

It took me months to find the right cue makers after being told by several what I wanted built couldn’t be done.

Well, there are 4 KW shafts in my cue case that proved some cue makers are lazy or aren’t as talented as some
think. After matching a KW shaft with my TS cue, it now plays like a Stradivarius where before it was just a fiddle.
The reality is there’s a weight proportionality between both halves of a 2 piece cue. Find out what works best for you.
 
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Frosty…..you can always put me on ignore because I ain’t changing at this stage of life. Verbose…..loquacious……sure but poignant and salient are also applicable. So like I suggested, put me on ignore or don’t bother reading but you are as dumb as a rock to think anything you might opine could influence me in any way…...Obladi Oblada. It’s your choice.
 
Bavafongoul said:
Frosty…..you can always put me on ignore because I ain’t changing at this stage of life. Verbose…..loquacious……sure but poignant and salient are also applicable. So like I suggested, put me on ignore or don’t bother reading but you are as dumb as a rock to think anything you might opine could influence me in any way…...Obladi Oblada. It’s your choice.
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Do you even realize how many times you’ve told the stories about your cues, your search for KW shafts, the California ivory ban? Verbose, loquacious? How about full of yourself? You remind me of an individual I used to know, he always liked to say, “my favorite things I like to talk about are me and my money”, at least he was self aware.
 
Patrick Johnson said:
On the other hand, smaller squirt estimates mean smaller errors.

pj
chgo
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It has long been apparent that I am in the minority. But I’ve never player with an LD or CF shaft that made be think I need to change and play with them instead of my traditional maple shafts. I even bought a 314-2 shaft when it was new so I could spend more time with it. But I’ve never felt improvements in hit, predictability, or reproducibility with these “newer” shaft technologies (not so new any longer). I play OK with my 314-2. It doesn’t take me long to adjust to its feel.

I have days when I can’t miss anything and days when I’m embarrassed even when playing alone. IMO, the problem is not from my cues.
 
Frosty said:
Do you even realize how many times you’ve told the stories about your cues, your search for KW shafts, the California ivory ban? Verbose, loquacious? How about full of yourself? You remind me of an individual I used to know, he always liked to say, “my favorite things I like to talk about are me and my money”, at least he was self aware.
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Your choice…….ignore me, harass me, criticize me but your opinion is absolutely meaningless and about as important as the shit picked up at a dog park. It matters not a bit to me but even dogs are entitled to enjoy bowel releases so go for it.
Anyway, if the Forum’s readers don’t enjoy or actually resent my posts apparently like you, than just stop reading them.
 
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