Cue shaft talk

Luckily there's nobody that makes a CF shaft for any of my playing cues.
I may be able to convince somebody to do a special pitch, but why?

I play with Dieckman shafts, solid maple. Dennis learned some things screwing around with Steve Titus.
 
qolbrand said:
yeah if i could get anything even remotely close in price i would have preferred to buy USA but we are probably a few years off that still.

as far as a “difference” its just for breaking the balls. i could probably use a fiberglass shaft and get the same results.

i tend to avoid games that need a break cue anyway and will never be one of those guys that practices the break for an hour at a time. i figure if i dont give enough of a damn to practice it then theres absolutely no way of buying my way into it.

the extra $550 would just be a massive waste for a player like me.




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Some discounts applied but its still up for like $70
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Does anybody besides me see the dollar signs attached to this?? The profit margins??
Wow!!!
 
SeniorTom said:
I have three playing carbon fiber shafts, but I always gravitate back to my laminated maple shaft. To me, It's the best of both worlds. I don't believe ld is all gain, there is something a ld shaft can't provide. What it cannot provide is the same feel when striking the ball that maple shafts (wood) can provide., I have read some posts that talk about a game of feel that prevents them from comfortably going back to wood, but I think this is counterintuitive. You get better feel/response when striking the cue ball with a wood shaft then you do with a rigid carbon fiber shaft. This particular feel allows you more cue ball control, imo. This is why I play with a laminated wood shaft, because it offers aspects of both worlds so to speak. I wonder how pool players, especially professionals, played so well in the past with those lousy wood shafts?
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You obviously like that firm, solid hit provided by a laminate. I like it as well.😉 There's a whole slew of implex happy soft hit players out there that don't care for that particular hit, for whatever reason.
I have several JBs full of CF shafts and none provide me with the same feedback as my worst maple shaft does.
These younger players stuck on CF haven't spent the years we did learning about the feel of a wood shaft. They've gotten used to that CF feel. And seem to play just as well with it.
It comes down to what you like and learn on.
For us it's a game of tactile awareness. We KNOW there's more to be had than what CF provides.
Exceptions to the rule noted.
 
Mensabum said:
You obviously like that firm, solid hit provided by a laminate. I like it as well.😉 There's a whole slew of implex happy soft hit players out there that don't care for that particular hit, for whatever reason.
I have several JBs full of CF shafts and none provide me with the same feedback as my worst maple shaft does.
These younger players stuck on CF haven't spent the years we did learning about the feel of a wood shaft. They've gotten used to that CF feel. And seem to play just as well with it.
It comes down to what you like and learn on.
For us it's a game of tactile awareness. We KNOW there's more to be had than what CF provides.
Exceptions to the rule noted.
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I feel I have a unique situation in that I have only been playing pool for about 3 years now. I'm pretty good at it, and can hang with most people on the table. I started off with maple wood shaft, and got in the carbon fiber a little bit. I really don't have long experiences with either, maybe a year or two, but when I compare the two shafts, I seem to go back to my laminated wood shaft. I do this because I enjoy the feel of striking the cue ball the best with that shaft. It seems to give me the most confidence. My carbon fiber shafts ranging from inexpensive rhino, all the way to a very expensive Rogue made for Pechauer cf, and my laminated Maple shaft seems to be my go-to shaft. I also enjoy a larger diameter shaft, 12.75 mm to 13 mm is the size of my Pro tapers. My hands are on the larger side and that size seems to fit well in my bridge. It would be interesting to know what others use in terms of diameter, I think a lot of people enjoy the thin shaft for workability.
 
Mensabum said:
Does anybody besides me see the dollar signs attached to this?? The profit margins??
Wow!!!
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Everything in this world seems to be about money, but they do produce some beautiful shafts. You look at the golf world business, and think about buying a new driver. Those babies cost $5-$600 on average. I will give the sports industry credit, no matter which sport it is, they do make some very highly technical equipment. I think consumers are paying more for research than the actual cost of material.
 
Jaden said:
No, as in the ones that I produce. Ontarget Tips. They are only publicly available in a limited capacity as I get ready to launch Ontarget Billiards in a full capacity with lines of cues, shafts, etc.
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what material is the ontarget tip?
 
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