Thank you, so now I understand completely. Seems like someone at CSI could have supplied that answer over a period of 8 months while my frustration from being ignored grew to a point where I thought no one was caring or even seeing my question. Now I am banned, probably for life, at CSI events because I said i thought I should seek legal help in getting my answer. I can only assume that CSI like too many other organizations feel as though they owe no one any explanations. They did not even have the decency to inform me of the ban. Only through third party did I learn when trying to register for state. I did not even know that forums such as this even existed. Again thank you! Such a simple answer would have prevented a lot of heartache and grief. Zero class on their part.