I"m the lucky person on the list at this time to have a week's free trial with Chuck Starkey's double refund cue from AZ forum fame last year. He post on AZ as desi2960 if you want on the list. The cue is wood to wood joint with a big wood pin and it hits and plays great although it does not seem to be a Tallisman medium pro tip I'm used to playing with. The fit and finish is awesome for a cue that gets passed around every weekend and the wood is beautiful as any I've ever seen. I have played about two hours with it this evening and switched back to my OB 1 shaft to see if it changed my game and was able to stay in stroke. I will be asking Chuck now if he can put that big wood pin in a OB 1 partial shaft so he can build me a cue with the best of both worlds. Thanks to desi2960 for the free trial and to the previous tester that shipped it to me.--Leonard