boogieman
It don't mean a thing if it ain't got that ping.
I saw it with some of the original Kamui super softs when they first came out. I think most manufacturers have got it right by now.
Cue Tip Compression
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boogieman
It don't mean a thing if it ain't got that ping.
I like very hard tips. I found that the green one actually reduced sound from my normal fare.
If you know all that, why did you write ''What exactly is the difference between soft, medium, and hard layered tips?''...?
I'd shoot with a rock if I could get it to hold chalk!!I like very hard tips. I found that the green one actually reduced sound from my normal fare.
Tips don't create draw, your stroke does, I used medium or softer tips for a long time, I was using a Kamui Athlete tip and was happy with the tip, there technology is the tip is harder at the center and softer on the edges and designed for CF shafts, the TAOM FUSION was also designed for CF shafts so I gave them a try as well, I expected them to play very similar but they were miles apart, the TAOM FUSION tip was much harder, as I've said before I don't just cut off a newer tip, I like to give each tip at least a couple of months, after a week or so I got used to the harder tip and had no problem getting great draw, watched a Dr Dave video that showed harder tips actually produce very slightly more draw than softer tips, my friend has a super fast stroke and gets ridiculous draw and follow, I am not that gifted, using a heavier cue and the hard(green) Recoil tip with the Becue Prime II shaft made drawing and following the cue ball a breeze with the proper stroke, when I don't stroke the cue ball properly I launch the cue ball off the table or perform the best stop shot you have ever seen, I'm still a work in progress, I guess the moral of the story is don't blame your equipment for your lack of "good draw", there are many great players who get great draw with very soft tips or very hard tips, take the time to find what works for you, don't be scared to experiment, you will know what works for YOU if you allow yourself to try different things with an open mind
I haven't noticed any draw issues with bulletproof tips. I think I saw a comment or two several months back. Guys were tossing that around, but for me, no probs. My advice to them would be to dial it down a bit.
I know exactly how you feel!Thank ya Sir!!!
You'd be one of the first!!
cueball2010
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This is sounding pretty logical. Tips only provide grip. The rest is predetermined by the laws of physics.Tips don't create draw, your stroke does, I used medium or softer tips for a long time, I was using a Kamui Athlete tip and was happy with the tip, there technology is the tip is harder at the center and softer on the edges and designed for CF shafts, the TAOM FUSION was also designed for CF shafts so I gave them a try as well, I expected them to play very similar but they were miles apart, the TAOM FUSION tip was much harder, as I've said before I don't just cut off a newer tip, I like to give each tip at least a couple of months, after a week or so I got used to the harder tip and had no problem getting great draw, watched a Dr Dave video that showed harder tips actually produce very slightly more draw than softer tips, my friend has a super fast stroke and gets ridiculous draw and follow, I am not that gifted, using a heavier cue and the hard(green) Recoil tip with the Becue Prime II shaft made drawing and following the cue ball a breeze with the proper stroke, when I don't stroke the cue ball properly I launch the cue ball off the table or perform the best stop shot you have ever seen, I'm still a work in progress, I guess the moral of the story is don't blame your equipment for your lack of "good draw", there are many great players who get great draw with very soft tips or very hard tips, take the time to find what works for you, don't be scared to experiment, you will know what works for YOU if you allow yourself to try different things with an open mind
Does the Bulletproof green hard tip feel like an old and hardened soft tip with 2 layers left? I think all tips get hard so I should probably skip the medium tip step too.
Fit and Feel
I would liken it to driving a high performance car. It takes a real driver to keep it Shiney side up. Then the skills to win the race come next. It took me a long time to go from medium to hard tip. Now I practice with phenolic break tip. It's enlightening. Center ball mastery first then the spinning trick shots. Degrees of variation can yield perfect shape . Phenolic tip requires a tight group but variation can be achieved with practice.
Practice and NO Gambling.
I would liken it to driving a high performance car. It takes a real driver to keep it Shiney side up. Then the skills to win the race come next. It took me a long time to go from medium to hard tip. Now I practice with phenolic break tip. It's enlightening. Center ball mastery first then the spinning trick shots. Degrees of variation can yield perfect shape . Phenolic tip requires a tight group but variation can be achieved with practice.
Practice and NO Gambling.
cueball2010
Active member
Why did it take you a long time to go from medium to hard? Was it physical or was it mental doubt?Fit and Feel
I would liken it to driving a high performance car. It takes a real driver to keep it Shiney side up. Then the skills to win the race come next. It took me a long time to go from medium to hard tip. Now I practice with phenolic break tip. It's enlightening. Center ball mastery first then the spinning trick shots. Degrees of variation can yield perfect shape . Phenolic tip requires a tight group but variation can be achieved with practice.
Practice and NO Gambling.
It feels like a hard tip, what is really different is the chalk retention, it holds chalk better than any tip of any hardness I have ever used, a lot of people believe a hard tip will not allow you to use extreme English, this is false, I have no problem using extreme English, the real problem is WHY are you using extreme English? I have found the problem is using extreme English too much, when stroked properly I can draw the cue ball back 3 ft with ease only hitting the cueball 1/4" below center, is it more important to draw the ball 2 table lengths or the ability to draw the ball exactly where you need it for position? The same goes with follow, I always used Medium tips until I tried the TAOM Fusion tip, it is a hard tip in my opinion, the Recoil tip is a little harder but I had no problem adjusting to it at all, within the first hour of playing with the Recoil I knew I had found my tip, the bonuses came latter when I found how little tip maintenance I had to do and the tips ability to hold shape, it did take a little while to find the perfect scuffer, I know the Sandman shaper isn't designed as a scuffer but it works great, I'm using this tip on a Becue Natural Born Naked cue, the Butt and shaft are both CF, standard Butt length 30" shaft don't know if that has anything to do with it.
It was the skill set. Being able to deliver the tip to the ball precisely.
Switching from object ball to cueball last was a factor. (most likely
). Practice with my 3 ball break has shown me how much spin a hard tip can impart. Controlling it takes a little longer to master.
I spent a a self induced month of hitting the cueball center ball only, I allowed myself to use draw and follow but no sidespin, I was shocked at how much you can move the cueball around without using sidespin, it also taught me to rely more on natural angles, as pool players sometimes we are too smart for our own good and use English when we don't really need it, it might be time for another month of no sidespin.......Fit and Feel
I would liken it to driving a high performance car. It takes a real driver to keep it Shiney side up. Then the skills to win the race come next. It took me a long time to go from medium to hard tip. Now I practice with phenolic break tip. It's enlightening. Center ball mastery first then the spinning trick shots. Degrees of variation can yield perfect shape . Phenolic tip requires a tight group but variation can be achieved with practice.
Practice and NO Gambling.
I found that playing center line with only top or bottom and staying on natural angles was profitable. I enjoyed playing opponents that liked to spin their rock. They generally underestimated my plain vanilla game. It kept them digging for more ammunition and even grumbling to the gal they were trying to impress.
Trying to remember the movie, oh yeah Quigley Down Under.
"Never said I didn't know how to use it."