cueing downwards as opposed to level?

BRussell said:
Is a level stroke ever really possible? Even just accounting for your knuckles under the butt of the cue, which is already thicker than the shaft, and then the rail, other balls, etc., I don't think it's possible.
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I suppose you could pinch the cue, like an upside down dart throw.:rolleyes:
 
i do it when i want to draw back and the object ball is really close to the cue ball
or when i really want to kill the ball


alot in straight rail actually
 
I've found that using the right elevation for your cue can help cancel out the effects of deflection and throw. When I switched back to a standard shaft from LD, I noticed that adding a little elevation to my cue allowed my to play backhand english without having to make any aiming adjustments. It's actually very consistent once you get the hang of it and I'm convinced that it's the reason Earl, Shane and other "elevated-style" players do it.
 
Good post by you.....

victorl said:
I've found that using the right elevation for your cue can help cancel out the effects of deflection and throw. When I switched back to a standard shaft from LD, I noticed that adding a little elevation to my cue allowed my to play backhand english without having to make any aiming adjustments. It's actually very consistent once you get the hang of it and I'm convinced that it's the reason Earl, Shane and other "elevated-style" players do it.
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Note use of the word "help" cancel....not eliminate.
This is a very good cue position 'tool'.
Preacher Don Feeney discussed it in some of his videos.
Danny Jones showed it to me when I was about 19.
 
smashmouth said:
I observed the snooker guys in the recent World's cueing downwards on almost every shot, what gives? I'm talking some sharp degrees here too, very very pronounced downward shooting on the cueball when it was possible for a level stroke
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Cueing level is only possible when stroking your cue parallel to the table cloth. Other than that, off the rail, etc, the cueing is never level. Hitting down on the cue ball creates masse or curve, but can cancel out english and deflection if hit properly.
 
Del Hill, a top snooker coach (clients include the likes of Ronnie O'Sullivan, Mark Selby, Stephen Hendry, Jimmy White, Peter Ebdon etc) says that wherever he goes in the world he learns to say 'up to down' in the local language. The relevant part is around 4.30 on the link below

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AwdUk7CGT7Y

if you're interested in the fundamentals I'd recommend watching all 5 parts of this video, unfortunately much of the action is off screen but you can hear what he's saying
 
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Again, this conters anything you'll learn with the Carom players. Carom strokes of course need to be a bit different.

Yes, raising the back for backspin results in more backspin, we all know that.
But for anything else... don't.

The timing involved as shown by Davis is advanced as you need to drop at the right time so you can continue to strike the ball low for continued backspin.
Also the style of some players is certainly a personal development to achieve a certain goal and conter certain behaviour of their cues or the cloth.

I had the best results with as level as possible as relaxed as possible and really hit the white where you plan to.
"The less moves or changes the less can go wrong." - Carom saying.

Cheers,
M
 
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