cueing downwards as opposed to level?

smashmouth

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I observed the snooker guys in the recent World's cueing downwards on almost every shot, what gives? I'm talking some sharp degrees here too, very very pronounced downward shooting on the cueball when it was possible for a level stroke
 
jeremy jones took some time to explain this very thing to me

he demonstrated this over and over
this does not mean i caught on,
but i do think you are recognizing what the better players are doing

either that or he may have been ribing me
 
jeremy jones took some time to explain this very thing to me

he demonstrated this over and over
this does not mean i caught on,
but i do think you are recognizing what the better players are doing

either that or he may have been ribing me

can you elaborate?
 
Selby does it more than most.

He tends to drop the elbow so he doesn't cue down on the ball even though he sets up that way.

Also, my theory is that in and around the pink and black spots is generally very clustered and a slightly elevated cue means you won't clatter a red with your grip as you cue.
 
Elbow drop.

But I do not like the rocking of the cue. That creates a need for good natural timing.

Look at the pool break shots where the shooter raises up which raises the shoulder. Most do not raise the cue or at least not too much

Both are making room for a more powerful move.

Stop the snooker video when the cue gets 'level' & compare it to the pool break shots.

You have a similar picture.
 
Elbow drop.

But I do not like the rocking of the cue. That creates a need for good natural timing.

Look at the pool break shots where the shooter raises up which raises the shoulder. Most do not raise the cue or at least not too much

Both are making room for a more powerful move.

Stop the snooker video when the cue gets 'level' & compare it to the pool break shots.

You have a similar picture.

This is like a poorly written haiku.
 
The game is played with the whole surface area of the tip depending on where you intend to strike the cue ball.
 
Is a level stroke ever really possible? Even just accounting for your knuckles under the butt of the cue, which is already thicker than the shaft, and then the rail, other balls, etc., I don't think it's possible.
 
I am bumping this post because I think it is interesting, and I would like to hear more about it.

kollegedave
 
thanks, Davis mentions that its done but does not explain why

Well Davis says that by raising the but end of the cue (some) it gives the player room to follow through without worrying about the stroke being altered by touching the cushion.

I am a bit embarrassed to say that I have never thought of implementing this idea before now.

kollegedave
 
Is a level stroke ever really possible? Even just accounting for your knuckles under the butt of the cue, which is already thicker than the shaft, and then the rail, other balls, etc., I don't think it's possible.
It's possible but it's just not practical. In a practical sense you should cue with enough elevation to allow a free flowing stroke. Some snooker players play with excessive elevation for what ever reasons. I've never understood it really but who's to argue with a world class player.
 
Well Davis says that by raising the but end of the cue (some) it gives the player room to follow through without worrying about the stroke being altered by touching the cushion.

I am a bit embarrassed to say that I have never thought of implementing this idea before now.

kollegedave
Also almost all snooker players play with a locked back leg. This really limits how low you can get the hips and how level you can get the cue... Especially for tall players like Robertson and Selby.
 
Also almost all snooker players play with a locked back leg. This really limits how low you can get the hips and how level you can get the cue... Especially for tall players like Robertson and Selby.

being a really tall player must be brutal....if you ever see Gabe, ask him about the tournament we played in Tulsa years ago.....this one specific rule....couldn't bring your hand overthe shoulder to masse or jump (cant remember why)

im standing right next to gabe....in front of the TD....i look at the TD...i look gabe up and down....he looks down at me....i look at the TD.....

"am i the only one whos fixing to call bullchit on this short guy bigotry?"

laughs galore.
 
Also almost all snooker players play with a locked back leg. This really limits how low you can get the hips and how level you can get the cue... Especially for tall players like Robertson and Selby.

I watched Kyren Wilson play a little this past week He's an exception -- both knees bent.
 
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