Cues As Investments

I have bought cues with the intention of profit and did well. Overall I’ve made more on cues than I’ve lost. Not every deal was a winner. I’ve lost money as well.

Sometimes I like a cue and don’t care.

Other times I’ve bought cues with only the intention of reselling fast as possible with a intended profit.

Depends on the cue, and my mood.

I like pool first, cues 2nd.

Best
Fatboy

PS : having said what I did, it would be more beneficial for me to sell off the “Fatboy Collection” now than later. It’s a big number. But my $’s ok and I like my cues. So yeah I’m losing $ on them and I don’t care. Some of that money is profit from cues I’ve owned 30+ years.


I wouldn’t want to make it a biz I had to live off of.
Would love to see your collection
 
My three cents worth
I do not think that Cues are going up in value in general
the kids today don’t care who Gus or Barry Szamboti or George Balabushka or Tim Scruggs or pick any other maker
they want to play with cuetec With a carbon fiber shaft because Shane does
And the people who still do care who those cue makers are
are getting older and unfortunately passing on
That reasoning prompted me to sell off my whole collection of over 20 cues
except for 4 cues
which I really like and use as players
 
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My three cents worth
I do not think that Cues are going up in value in general
the kids today don’t care who Gus or Barry Szamboti or George Balabushka or Tim Scruggs or pick any other maker
they want to play with cuetec With a carbon fiber shaft because Shane does
And the people who still do care who those cue makers are
are getting older and unfortunately passing on
That reasoning prompted me to sell off my whole collection of over 20 cues
except for 4 cues
which I really like and use as players
This is how I see it. Pool's popularity is waning. If you are in for the money, the time to sell was a long time ago. However, many sellers indicate by their prices that times have never been better.

I guess what bothers me most is that, at least on AZB, our "For Sale" Forum seems stagnant due to high prices and no price adjustments even after ridiculous lengths of time. It's like I want to tell some Sellers, "Listen the market is speaking -- loudly through silence." I see many cues I might consider, but not anywhere in the ballpark requested. It seems when a cue is priced correctly, it is seldom available beyond two weeks.

I like selling cues in pool halls, more like adoptions than sales, to worthy players.
 
Do you really think the number of pool players is declining? I can't get a table at my local pool hall if I don't get there early. Seems to me like it's bigger than ever.
 
I am afraid so, but maybe it is a matter of perspective. Real Pool/Pool Halls (good tables/cloth) are down to one here on Miss. Coast, but then I am 80 miles from Buffalo's where pool is thriving.
 
Do you really think the number of pool players is declining? I can't get a table at my local pool hall if I don't get there early. Seems to me like it's bigger than ever.
I enjoy seeing a crowded room with people having fun.
 
Personally I have made money on most of the cues I have sold. Granted I had some that took longer to sell than I wanted and some that I ended up taking a loss on. But overall, I am ahead.

I don’t think of my cues as an investment. Rather, I really enjoy the game and the craftsmanship of a well built cue. It’s funny how many times I am complimented on cues by people that have no idea what a custom cue might cost.

while I think the majority of players don’t care about customs, I think there will continue to be a market for quality hand made cues over run of the mill production cues.

It also has a lot to do with the economy. I tend to purchase cues in the 2-4k range. There are a lot more people willing to spend that than say 7-10k
 
Buy quality cues and when the price goes up, sell them. If they don't go up, don't buy them.

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I have a friend who has a passion for antiques. He made a middle-class income, but spent every spare dime on antiques. It was his passion. He'd buy antique SLOT MACHINES and restore them. Antique puppets. Antique posters. Old Tiffany Lamps. Furniture. You name it. He'd buy just anything he liked and could afford, and he had good taste. He eventually filled his house with antiques and had everything displayed with love and care. Spent 50 years doing it. Eventually he met the love of his life and wanted to retire and move to CA with her. A expressed interest to some of his connections that he was interested in selling and a company came and offered him million(S) for the house and everything in it. That was his sticking point. Everything must go. It didn't take long. He retired, married the new love of his life, and moved away to a beautiful home in a secluded area. He said that he did better collecting then he ever would have buying stocks based on the amount of money he was able to invest. Now I see on social media that he has been building up a collection of vintage JAZZ guitars over the last few years. I guess the bug never leaves you. What is the moral of the story? If you buy what you like (and have a modicum of taste), hold on to it for a length of time, you'll probably do well if you eventually sell. I think that can apply to any collectible.
 
A little off topic but something that really annoys me these days is the middle man cue sellers who buy new and used cues for near retail and then turn around and attempt to sell for more than retail and advertise it like its a smokin deal, wont last long bullshit. And those poor people who buy it will lose a ton of they decide to part with it.

If that bothers you, how do you feel about all of the unsubstantiated claims made by manufacturers like predator and mezz about their 'technology'?
 
I have a friend who has a passion for antiques. He made a middle-class income, but spent every spare dime on antiques. It was his passion. He'd buy antique SLOT MACHINES and restore them. Antique puppets. Antique posters. Old Tiffany Lamps. Furniture. You name it. He'd buy just anything he liked and could afford, and he had good taste. He eventually filled his house with antiques and had everything displayed with love and care. Spent 50 years doing it. Eventually he met the love of his life and wanted to retire and move to CA with her. A expressed interest to some of his connections that he was interested in selling and a company came and offered him million(S) for the house and everything in it. That was his sticking point. Everything must go. It didn't take long. He retired, married the new love of his life, and moved away to a beautiful home in a secluded area. He said that he did better collecting then he ever would have buying stocks based on the amount of money he was able to invest. Now I see on social media that he has been building up a collection of vintage JAZZ guitars over the last few years. I guess the bug never leaves you. What is the moral of the story? If you buy what you like (and have a modicum of taste), hold on to it for a length of time, you'll probably do well if you eventually sell. I think that can apply to any collectible.

For every story like that, there are a thousand stories that end the opposite way.
 
For every story like that, there are a thousand stories that end the opposite way.
I don't doubt it. The point was he didn't do it to GET RICH. He did it because he had a genuine passion for what he was doing, patience to buy the right things, and over time it paid off. The world is not fair. Everyone isn't born with the same I.Q. and/or capabilities. For every winner there is a loser. Such is life. Doesn't mean you can't "go for it". YOLO.
 
As a personal rule, I only buy luxury goods based on my immediate needs and wants. Investment is never something that crosses my mind when it comes to things like cues, furniture, watches, etc. In fact, I buy everything with the assumption that it will depreciate in value and if it happens to appreciate over time, awesome! Will be getting cues from Nitti and Owen some time in early 2023 and it will be glorious.
 
My cues are all worth less than what I paid for them.
On the other hand, My Buddy Hall, Rags to Rifleman book is worth a fortune.
 
My cues are all worth less than what I paid for them.
On the other hand, My Buddy Hall, Rags to Rifleman book is worth a fortune.
Tom Wirth’s book is definitely a future collectible to consider.
 
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If that bothers you, how do you feel about all of the unsubstantiated claims made by manufacturers like predator and mezz about their 'technology'?
There’s no doubt that their cues reduce deflection but I always feel like the hit of those cues are lifeless. That’s just my biased Opinion. I also don’t understand the need for a $700 break cue.
 
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