custo, cues and makers,

I believe that the persons stroke, height, weight, and attitude all figure into how a cue fits a person. If the person likes the looks and weight distibution on a cue they will play a ball(or more) better than with another cue. Points and other decorations do nothing except sell cues.

If you really want to know who constructs the best cue, contact Kerry Zyler (McKready's old room mate) in Los Angeles and ask him for details on a maker. He was the first to x-ray cues and has done hundreds from various makers to see how they were constructed. He can tell you who uses cheap glue, who leaves air pockets, how deep inlays are set, if the cue has been cored with another piece of wood, who's points are sharpest (Padgett wins that I believe), and prob. where the wood was even grown. He himself makes great cues, though they have no points and mostly go to Japan. I have been to Blacks in Texas, Franklins in Vegas, met David Kersenbrock, and met tons of cue makers over the years. I respect all that try to build quality cues for the effort that they put out. But I have never met anyone that has as much knowledge about wood or cue construction as Kerry. I spent a few days reviewing wood blanks, shaft material, and other things cue related with him. Even though I wouldn't attempt turning a broom handle, I did learn about all the steps and processes that it takes to build a quality cue.

There may not be a best playing cue, but there are top constructed cues.

I like a bunch or I wouldn't have so many :)
 
Ruthless, you are well informed.
Kerry BUILDS solid cues.
He is approaching a year's wait for a his cues now.
Kerry just had an accident in his shop in May but he is fine.
His Ivor-X ferrule was a great success at the BCA cnvtn.
Ivor-X ferrule will make ivory ferrules passe'.
 
blud said:
Beavis,

We all have our opinions.

You are clueless again about who built you or your friends bludworth's. It could of been me or someone else with the same name. Who knows? I would be more than happy to tell you if I saw the cues.

Who did you and your friend buy your cues from?

I am not ashamed of any cues I build. They "DO NOT" get sent out, other than first class. If you really knew me and how I operate, you would of known this. I do not send out rush jobs or seconds, as you say and think.

But you think I am rushing through cues for the cash. Your really out of line on that issue.

I don't have "my customers" tell me when they will get there cue. I tell them this, I will not rush your cues for any amount of money or reason, and I will not paint and or cut wood when it's raining or the humidity is high. I "will" take my time and do it right. If you don't like the way I go about building my cues, go some place else. This has worked for me for over 25 years.

As far as me giving cues to pro player, yes sir, I sure did. However they had many more cuemakers to choose from. I never did see your name, Beavis on any list of players. Has anyone else? You would have to pay.

As far as my cues being second at best, as you say, this again is your opinion. As far as your statements, your way of base again.

I make a good living building cues. If I were as you made me out to be, I would be on food stamps or living under a bridge.

My ranch is paid for along with my trucks, cars, jeep, tractors, golf cart, and a 4 wheel drive mule, and the rest of our belongings. [ guest house 1570 sq.ft., barn 1650 sq.ft. another guest home 1200 sq.ft, our home 4512 sq.ft. and our shop 2880sq.ft. and a green house 864sq.ft, and a garage at 1,344sq.ft. ].... You don't gather all of these things building crapy cues.

My wife of 42 plus years and I are very happy with what we have accomplished over the years. This is why we take offence to your knocking.

You shouldn't be telling the world how you think I run my business,when again your clueless. It's none of your afair. Your just guessing, period.

This was not a smart move on your part talking about my business and me rushing cues for the cash, or your guessing at how my business is run. This would be like me telling you how you run your business. This would be stupid of me, don't you think?

All I try to do is help folks out on this forum.

I will stand up and take the heat when I have it coming. But your knocking is way out of line. I have and always will stand up for what is right. If I am wrong, I'll be the first one to say so.

About being wrong, yes, I am wrong for letting you suck me into this pissing contest.

blud
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Im clueless has to who built my cue ? YOU have already said that my cue was built when your son was running things. Not sure now ?

I dont build cues, so you will never see my name on any of them. Im just a customer who bought your cues thinking they were a sound investment. I believed all that BS I hear before I bought your cue. But it took me owning two of them before I saw that "quality" for myself.

And who gives a dam what you have. That doesnt prove you build great cues or bad ones. Meucci isnt a high dollar cue, but Im sure Bob is rolling in the dough.

I never said I know how you run your business. I just know what the cues look like that get out the door. And then I know what they look like 1 year later.

Either way you are right about this being a pissing contest. Anyone can go try out one of your cues, or talk to some normal person who owns one and sees what they think about it. They dont have to hear it from me.
 
Joeseph,
I have a couple of his in my collection. They are great playing cues(but I love my SW). I travel quite a bit building for a major food chain and have had the chance to see most of the major name rooms. So I get to meet a lot of people in different parts of the country that most people will never have the chance of meeting. My playing has went downhill because of time restraints involved, but the love of the game is still there.
 
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10 years ago.. he must have some collection. There is another cue maker who supposedly has every cue makers work on X ray.
 
Joseph Cues said:
Thank you for sharing that Bruin.
But, like Blud, I think SS joints kill the soundwave/reasonance of the cue.
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yes they do,,,and i think that is one reason flatfaces are so popular. the feel a player gets for the hit.

craig didn't interpret his findings, ie how the broader strength of the flatface affects the hit. he favored ss joints.
 
Ruthless said:
But I have never met anyone that has as much knowledge about wood or cue construction as Kerry.
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Ever talk to Tony Scianella of Black Boar? He is a fountain of knowledge!
 
Ted,

I haven't had the chance to meet him yet. I know a friend of his that lives here and I have had a good look at his cues(one is the one pictured in the Billiard Encyclopedia). He does great work and his cues are very impressive. I do hope to get the chance to meet him if I get back up his way or he ever visits my area (when I'm in town).
 
x raying cues - whenever terry romaine of schon cues became involved in the ownership of the company - esrly 80s i think - he asked to x ra my bushka, so there are probably many cuemakers that took advantage of this type of information. i believe he made reference to me that he would like to achieve a hit comparable hit. JB-minneapolis,mn.
 
Just so people know...

I have spoken with Blud about the troubles I had come across with Bludworth cues. As it turns out, the cues I had were back when his son was running the show. The problems I described were the exact ones he said he has been repairing trying to fix his name.

Its tough when you have someone ruin your name for ya, and I no longer will compare the bludworths I owned to the bludworths currently being built.

"Beavis"
 
custom cues and makers

I agree with Zim, rephrase the question and all should agree that they are expressing their own opinions based upon what they have experienced with a particular cue and cuemaker. Not hearsay. By the way how does a person spend 500-1000+ on a cue without having hit with it. I know people that have multiple cues from different mfgs and they each have a different hit even though they are made of same Birdseye maple and from the same cuemaker. (very well known) Just wondering.
 
cuemakers ...

J.D. Powers can rate a car the best in it's class, and I will go look at it, but I may not buy it if it doesn't 'feel' right for me, and what I am comfortable with.

Same with cues ... And guys, just because you are sold on a particular brand of cue does not mean your wife or girlfriend will be sold on it. Their feel may be different, or they like the one with the pretty flowers on it, or they don't want to pay that much as you did. Graduating up in cues is a process, much like the process of improving your game.
 
Beavis said:
Just so people know...

,,,,As it turns out, the cues I had were back when his son was running the show. The problems I described were the exact ones he said he has been repairing trying to fix his name.


"Beavis"
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how long ago were the cues made?
 
This would be anywhere from 8 to 10 years ago. Im not exactly too sure of that date. That might be even off alittle.

When I was younger I bought so many new cues with my winnings I cant place the exact date.
 
cues and cuemakers

Ruthless, a person that used to post at another site under the name of Fla. Renegade, ordered a Kerry Zyler cue and spent quite a bit of time with him when he was in So. Calif. He also traveled the countryside building for a nationally known company. He was a knowledgable person, who owned many cues from well known cuemakers including a couple of Kersenbrocks. He was totally impressed with the hit of Kerry's cues and of his knowledge. Do the two of you know one another? Does anyone out there have Kerry's tel #?
 
Hi Gerald,

I believe that was on B. Digest a couple years back and that was me :) I either go by renegade or ruthless, but haven't been around that board since they started changing the format around. I'll find his # for you later and if you leave me a mail address I will foreward it to you.
 
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Gerald said:
Ruthless, a person that used to post at another site under the name of Fla. Renegade, ordered a Kerry Zyler cue and spent quite a bit of time with him when he was in So. Calif. He also traveled the countryside building for a nationally known company. He was a knowledgable person, who owned many cues from well known cuemakers including a couple of Kersenbrocks. He was totally impressed with the hit of Kerry's cues and of his knowledge. Do the two of you know one another? Does anyone out there have Kerry's tel #?
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Not sure of the phone number but here is his email:
zylrcue@hotmail.com

Dave
 
Gerald, Kerry's phone number is 714-750-2837.
Be forewarned, Kerry is extremely busy right now as he is late in delivery of two dozen cues due to a minor accident and other businesses from the convention.
It will take months to get a Z cue now but I assure you nobody in this planet makes a more solid cue.
If you call him, call him at night. pacific time around 10 pm or so.
E-mailing him would be fine also.
 
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